🎙️ The Athletic FC Podcast March 5, 2026 ⏱️ 35 min

What's wrong with Aston Villa?

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1. Executive Overview: Core Theses & Key Revelations

Aston Villa’s 2024–25 campaign has reached a watershed moment. At the end of January, Unai Emery’s side stood shoulder-to-shoulder with Manchester City, sitting level on points in second place and trailing league leaders Arsenal by a manageable seven points. Yet an alarming run of just one victory in six matches—capped by consecutive, structurally distressing defeats to Wolverhampton Wanderers and Chelsea—has transformed a burgeoning title push into an anxious battle to maintain a top-four footprint. On The Athletic FC Podcast, Aston Villa correspondent Jacob Tanswell and analytical commentator James provided a sobering diagnosis of a club whose league standing (fourth place) masks profound tactical erosion, rotational stagnation, and structural fragility.

The discussion highlights three central theses that explain Villa’s sudden downward trajectory:

  • The High-Line Degeneration and Spatial Disruption: Unai Emery’s defining tactical blueprint—a compact, ultra-high defensive line engineered to compress the pitch and trigger offside traps—has metastasized into systemic exposure. Against Chelsea, Villa’s defensive structure bore an unsettling resemblance to the reckless high lines associated with Ange Postecoglou’s Tottenham Hotspur, leaving central defenders isolated, fall-backs overexposed, and opposition forwards exploiting vast expanses of transitional space.
  • Offensive Single-Dependency and the Watkins Autopsy: Villa’s attacking threat has contracted to a single functioning node: Morgan Rogers. Meanwhile, primary centre-forward Ollie Watkins is experiencing a pronounced multi-year regression since his 2023–24 career peak. Burdened by a chronic knee issue managed since the summer, Watkins’ goal conversion, link-up fluidity, and minutes-per-goal ratio have plummeted, jeopardizing not only Villa’s top-four aspirations but also his status as Harry Kane’s primary deputy in the England national squad.
  • The Managerial Loyalty Paradox and PSR Bottlenecks: Emery’s fierce loyalty to an established core—evidenced by starting eight players against Chelsea who were already at the club in 2021—has created a friction between internal squad accountability and tactical evolution. High-wage, plug-and-play acquisitions such as Tammy Abraham remain stranded on the periphery, while Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) limit Villa’s capacity to execute broad structural overhauls without damaging balance-sheet stability.

This investigation examines these revelations in full depth, dissecting the tactical mechanics, squad metrics, and strategic implications defining Aston Villa’s critical juncture.

2. Context & Background: The Landscape Leading to This Conversation

To fully appreciate the gravity of Villa's recent slump, one must understand the dramatic acceleration of the club's rise under Unai Emery. Inheriting a demotivated squad hovering near the relegation zone following Steven Gerrard’s dismissal in November 2022, Emery orchestrated a rapid tactical overhaul. By implementing strict positional discipline, automated build-up patterns, and a remarkably synchronized offside trap, Villa climbed to a seventh-place finish in 2022–23, securing UEFA Europa Conference League football.

The 2023–24 season represented the zenith of Emery’s project. Villa Park became an impregnable fortress where giants like Manchester City and Arsenal were suffocated and beaten. Ollie Watkins enjoyed a career-best campaign, delivering 19 goals and 13 assists in the Premier League. The team’s fourth-place finish secured UEFA Champions League qualification for the first time in over four decades, establishing Villa as the premier challenger to the traditional Big Six establishment.

However, this rapid ascent brought significant structural strains:

  • PSR and Financial Constraints: Operating near the upper limit of the Premier League's Profitability and Sustainability Rules, Villa faced severe squad-building constraints during the summer and winter transfer windows. To avoid financial breaches, the recruitment strategy prioritized experienced, high-salary, "plug-and-play" assets over long-term developmental depth.
  • Attritional Fatigue: Competing across domestic fixtures and elite European competition eroded the squad’s physical baseline. Key midfield orchestrators suffered long-term physical setbacks, stripping Emery of the tactical flexibility required to alter games from the bench.
  • Opposing Managerial Adaptation: Premier League strategists spent eighteen months analyzing Emery’s out-of-possession setup. By dropping deeper, overloading the flanks, and bypassing Villa’s mid-block with direct diagonal balls into the channels, opponents found reliable methods to turn Villa’s high line against them.

By late January 2025, Villa’s point tally mirrored title-contending pace. Yet underneath that numeric surface, performance metrics were quietly deteriorating. The consecutive defeats to Wolves and Chelsea did not create new flaws; they exposed pre-existing structural fractures that Emery could no longer mask.

3. Deep-Dive Thematic Breakdown

3.1 Tactical Anatomy: The High-Line Collapse and Flank Exposure

The core of Jacob Tanswell’s tactical analysis on The Athletic FC Podcast focused on the striking breakdown of Villa’s defensive shape against Chelsea. Historically, Emery’s high line is not a gamble; it is a calculated mechanism of spatial control. By maintaining a distance of less than thirty meters between the defensive line and the forward line, Villa forces opponents into precise, rushed passes that frequently trigger offside flags.

Against Chelsea, however, this mechanism failed completely. Tanswell noted that Villa’s defensive display shifted from "understated subtle intelligence" into something akin to Ange Postecoglou’s high-line scheme—dogmatic, exposed, and lacking structural protection. The underlying mechanics of this failure were threefold:

First, Villa’s right flank collapsed under targeted pressure. Right-back Matty Cash was repeatedly left in isolated 1v1 and 2v1 situations against Alejandro Garnacho and Malo Gusto. Without adequate defensive tracking from the right-sided attacker, Cash was forced to step up to press Gusto, opening massive channels behind him for Garnacho to attack. Chelsea exploited this weakness systematically, targeting the space between Cash and right-centre-back Ezri Konsa.

Second, central defenders Ezri Konsa and Tyrone Mings suffered from severe timing misalignment. When an opposition ball-carrier is given time on the ball without active midfield pressure, a high line becomes suicidal. Chelsea’s midfielders were repeatedly allowed to lift their heads and play vertical passes over Mings and Konsa. Rather than pushing up in unison to catch Joao Pedro offside, Konsa was caught on his heels, reactively chasing back toward his own goal as Pedro completed a decisive hat-trick.

Third, the early goal scored by Villa in the opening two minutes masked an immediate lack of control. As noted in the podcast, Leon Bailey’s opening goal originated from a chaotic sequence littered with unforced errors by both teams—an untidy giveaway by Watkins, an immediate turnover by Enzo Fernandez, and a twice-attempted pass by Douglas Luiz. Villa never established possession control, allowing Chelsea to manipulate the match tempo at will.

3.2 The Midfield Vacuum: Missing Engines and Structural Disruption

A central factor behind Villa's defensive disintegration is the simultaneous absence of their primary midfield triad: John McGinn, Boubacar Kamara, and Youri Tielemans. In Emery’s 4-2-2-2 / 4-4-2 hybrid framework, these three players perform specific positional functions that sustain the team's structural integrity:

  • Boubacar Kamara (The Transition Shield): Kamara acts as the structural anchor. Positioned in front of the central defenders, his elite spatial reading allows him to intercept vertical passes, cover wide channels when full-backs overlap, and execute immediate counter-pressing upon turnover. Without Kamara, Villa lacks a natural destroyer to protect the back four.
  • Youri Tielemans (The Tempo Regulator): Tielemans provides the technical composure required to beat opposition high presses. His ability to receive the ball under pressure, turn, and break defensive lines with progressive passes enables Villa to transition cleanly from defense to attack. Without Tielemans, Villa's build-up play becomes rushed, leading to turnover-heavy matches.
  • John McGinn (The Engine & Transitional Carrier): McGinn offers duel-winning capacity and powerful ball-carrying through central zones. His physical presence destabilizes opposition blocks and relieves pressure on the defensive unit.

With all three engines sidelined or restricted by injury, Villa’s midfield became permeable. Opposing managers—including Gary O'Neil at Wolves and Enzo Maresca at Chelsea—recognized that by compacting the central third and aggressively pressing Villa’s replacement midfielders, they could force turnovers in dangerous areas. Without midfield pressure on the ball, Villa’s high line was left completely exposed, leaving Mings and Konsa unprotected against dynamic runners.

3.3 Attacking Single-Dependency: The Morgan Rogers Isolation and Ollie Watkins Regression

Villa’s offensive output has become alarmingly unbalanced. Jacob Tanswell observed that Aston Villa currently occupies fourth place with essentially only one consistently effective attacking asset: Morgan Rogers. Since his arrival, Rogers has developed into a dynamic force, capable of driving through midfield resistance, turning in tight spaces, and generating high-value scoring opportunities.

However, Premier League opposition has quickly adjusted. Recent opponents—including Leeds United, Brentford, Wolves, and Chelsea—have adopted explicit anti-Rogers defensive strategies. By compacting the central midfield zones and double-teaming Rogers, teams neutralise Villa’s primary progression route. When Emery attempted to solve this by moving Rogers to the left wing against Chelsea, it further isolated him from central combination play, effectively neutralizing Villa's attack.

This single-dependency is exacerbated by the sharp statistical and physical regression of main striker Ollie Watkins. A comparative analysis of Watkins' output reveals a stark decline from his peak campaign:

Metric / Dimension 2023–24 Peak Season 2024–25 Current Season Structural & Tactical Impact
Scoring Efficiency 19 Premier League Goals (0.56 per 90) 8 Goals in 39 Appearances (>330 mins per goal) Severe reduction in clinical finishing and expected goals (xG) conversion.
Creative Output 13 Premier League Assists Minimal direct assist contributions Loss of link-up fluidity; inability to hold up play and bring wingers into central spaces.
Physical Conditioning Full training load; explosive pressing burst Managing chronic knee issue; restricted gym work Reduced deceleration/acceleration sharpness; vulnerable to physical central defenders.
International Status Harry Kane's clear #2; Euro 2024 semi-final hero Fading in England hierarchy; behind emerging options Diminishing reputation under Thomas Tuchel's national team evaluation.

Tanswell highlighted that Watkins’ struggles are rooted in physical limitations. Since the summer, Watkins has been managing a persistent knee issue that regularly prevents him from participating in full tactical training sessions, restricting him to indoor gym work. This lack of daily pitch preparation has degraded his sharp deceleration, first-touch control, and penalty-box timing.

Against Chelsea, Watkins’ performance mirrored his broader season: a goal narrowly ruled out for offside, untidy giveaways during build-up play, and a hesitation to pull the trigger in key scoring zones. As guest commentator James noted on the podcast, when assessing form for the upcoming World Cup cycle, Watkins can no longer be considered Harry Kane’s heir apparent: "If we're talking form, then no, Watkins is not Kane's deputy. You'd have to say that Watkins is at the back of the queue."

3.4 The Managerial Dilemma: Emery's Loyalty, Squad Accountability, and the Tammy Abraham Conundrum

Unai Emery’s managerial philosophy is built on absolute commitment to detailed tactical structures. However, his management style is currently facing significant scrutiny regarding squad selection and player accountability.

Emery possesses an intense loyalty to players who have historically proven their capability to execute his game plans. In the starting lineup against Chelsea, eight of the eleven players were already at Aston Villa in 2021—predating Emery’s arrival. While this continuity fostered early stability, it has created a structural barrier for new acquisitions and reduced internal competition.

On the podcast, James raised a critical concern regarding player accountability and squad psychology:

"I think sometimes it comes to a point when you need to give a player a break and take them out the team for their own sake to help them mentally as well with their form. It sends a negative message to the rest of the squad that people aren't accountable for performances."

Emery’s defenders point to his handling of Morgan Rogers as vindication for this approach. Rogers endured a difficult stretch early in the season, but Emery insisted on playing him through it, ultimately building the player's confidence and tactical maturity. However, applying this same logic to older, established veterans like Watkins or Leon Bailey appears counterproductive. Continuous selection during prolonged slumps risks burning out the player while signaling to backup options that meritocracy has been suspended.

This dynamic is clearest in the handling of Tammy Abraham. Signed to provide immediate goal-scoring firepower and tactical variation, Abraham has been restricted to minimal substitute appearances. Villa's recruitment strategy under PSR constraints requires high-wage, experienced signings to deliver immediate impact. By leaving Abraham on the bench while Watkins struggles through a 330-minute goal drought, Emery risks alienating squad depth and rendering expensive transfer operations ineffective.

3.5 Goalkeeping Volatility: The Emiliano Martínez Conundrum

Another topic discussed on the podcast was the volatile form of World Cup-winning goalkeeper Emiliano Martínez. While Martínez remains an iconic figure at Villa Park—renowned for his elite shot-stopping, penalty heroics, and commanding persona—his recent performances have introduced unwanted anxiety into Villa’s defensive unit.

James provided a candid assessment of the goalkeeping situation:

"I've got to be honest, I think they've got a problem with the goalkeeper too. He makes me nervous. I think it would have probably been the best for all parties if he'd left last summer."

In Emery’s system, the goalkeeper functions as a sweeping defender and a primary distributor. Martínez is required to hold the ball at his feet to bait the opposition press before playing line-breaking passes into midfield. However, an increase in unforced distribution errors, coupled with erratic decision-making when rushing off his line, has unsettled central defenders Tyrone Mings and Ezri Konsa.

When a back line lacks confidence in its goalkeeper’s sweeping timing or aerial command, defenders naturally drop deeper to protect their box. This subtle positioning drop disrupts Emery’s compact mid-block, opening up the exact midfield pockets that opponents like Chelsea and Wolves exploited so effectively.

4. Speaker Perspectives & Analytical Contrast

The dialogue on The Athletic FC Podcast offered a rich contrast between beat-level tactical reporting and broad analytical critique. The interaction between Aston Villa correspondent Jacob Tanswell, guest analyst James, and host Ayo Akinwolere revealed subtle points of agreement and debate regarding Villa’s trajectory.

Dimension / Issue Jacob Tanswell (Villa Correspondent) James (Analytical Commentator) Editorial Synthesis
Emery’s Tactical Setup Focuses on structural missteps in starting line-ups; highlights the bizarre, Postecoglou-like high-line exposure against Chelsea. Focuses on psychological rigidity; argues Emery’s refusal to bench out-of-form veterans damages squad accountability. Emery’s tactical stubbornness is impacting both pitch geometry (high line) and dressing-room dynamics (selection immunity).
Ollie Watkins’ Status Attributes decline to physical knee issues, reduced training load, and multi-year statistical regression since 2023–24. Frames decline in terms of England national team standing, arguing Watkins has fallen to the back of the queue behind Kane. Watkins’ regression is both physical and psychological, creating problems for Villa's top-four chase and his international career.
Squad Depth & Integration Emphasizes PSR bottlenecks forcing high-wage "plug-and-play" signings who struggle to breach Emery's core group of 2021 veterans. Questions the rationale of signing players like Tammy Abraham if Emery refuses to give them meaningful starting opportunities. Financial pressures limit Villa's recruitment options, while Emery's high trust barrier prevents effective squad rotation.
Goalkeeping Assessment Observes general defensive instability and lack of defensive control behind the midfield block. Takes a sharp, critical stance on Emi Martínez, stating he creates nervousness and a summer exit might have benefited all parties. Goalkeeping volatility has eroded the defensive confidence required to execute a high offside line.

While Tanswell provided context rooted in daily coverage—such as Watkins’ injury management and PSR transfer limitations—James delivered unvarnished assessments of player form and managerial stubbornness. Host Ayo Akinwolere framed the overarching dilemma: how a team that was level with Manchester City in late January could experience such a rapid collapse in form while remaining fourth in the Premier League table.

5. Strategic & Industry Implications

The crisis unfolding at Aston Villa carries broader strategic lessons for mid-tier Premier League clubs attempting to challenge the established elite under modern financial and tactical constraints.

5.1 The Financial Ceiling of PSR and High-Wage Squad Building

Aston Villa’s operational model illustrates the difficulties posed by Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR). Modern financial regulations prevent ambitious owners from simply funding massive squad overhauls. To stay compliant while building a Champions League-caliber squad, Villa has relied on acquiring experienced, high-wage players designed to make an immediate impact.

However, this strategy carries inherent risks:

  • Wage Structure Inflation: Bringing in high earners creates wage disparities that make unseating established starters financially and operationally delicate.
  • Resale Value Depletion: Older, plug-and-play assets depreciate rapidly, restricting the club's ability to generate player-trading profits required to reset PSR calculations.
  • Rotational Stagnation: If the manager distrusts new additions due to a lack of tactical familiarity, expensive squad players sit on the bench while overplayed starters suffer physical burnout.

5.2 Tactical Longevity in the Modern Premier League

Emery’s current struggles highlight the rapid shelf life of specialized tactical systems in elite football. When Emery introduced his ultra-compact 4-4-2 block and high offside trap in late 2022, it disrupted opposition attack plans across the league. Eighteen months later, opposition analysts have mapped every trigger and recovery path within Villa’s setup.

Without continuous innovation or player profile variance, predictable systems become vulnerable. When key orchestrators like Kamara and Tielemans are missing, maintaining a rigid high line against elite opposition transitions ceases to be a tactical advantage and becomes a major vulnerability.

6. Looking Ahead: Unresolved Questions & Next Milestones

As Aston Villa enters the decisive final stretch of the season, Unai Emery faces the most challenging managerial test of his Villa tenure. Holding onto fourth place will require immediate tactical adjustments and decisive management of his squad depth.

Key Metrics and Developments to Monitor:

  • The Integration Rate of Tammy Abraham: Will Emery grant Abraham his first sustained stretch of starts to relieve pressure on Ollie Watkins, or will he continue relying exclusively on his out-of-form starter?
  • Midfield Health Restoration: The return timelines of Boubacar Kamara, Youri Tielemans, and John McGinn will directly dictate whether Villa can restore structural protection to their back line.
  • High-Line Recovery & Offside Traps: Tracking opposition direct pass completion rates and Villa’s offside trap success rate over the next four fixtures will reveal if Emery is refining his defensive geometry.
  • Ollie Watkins' Goal Conversion: Monitoring Watkins' minutes-per-goal ratio and physical burst in the opening twenty minutes of matches will show whether his knee management plan is working or if extended rest is required.

Aston Villa remains in fourth place, holding a valuable cushion over their top-four rivals. However, as The Athletic FC Podcast panel made clear, momentum and performance trends are pointing in a concerning direction. Unless Unai Emery addresses the high-line vulnerabilities, diversifies his attack beyond Morgan Rogers, and instills genuine squad accountability, Villa’s dream season risks unraveling in the final months of the campaign.

💬 Key Quotes & Speaker Breakdown

England squad selection

"If we're talking form, then no, [Ollie Watkins] is not Kane's deputy. You'd have to say that Watkins is at the back of the queue."

James

Unai Emery management style

"Tactically, Emery, probably for the first time in his Villa career, has been repeatedly getting it wrong in terms of starting line-ups and fans have actually started to push back."

Jacob Tanswell

"I think sometimes it comes to a point when you need to give a player a break and take them out the team for their own sake to help them mentally as well with their form. It sends a negative message to the rest of the squad that people aren't accountable for performances."

James

Tactical analysis

"Some of it reminded me of Ange Postecoglou's Spurs that opposed the high line. And for a manager who prides himself on understated subtle intelligence, it was a quite bizarre showing."

Jacob Tanswell

Ollie Watkins form

"If you look at the numbers from the last three years, [Ollie Watkins] has regressed since his peak in the 23-24 season. The minutes per goal ratio is far lower than what it should be."

Jacob Tanswell

Aston Villa form

"The mood at the moment is completely opposite. It's pessimistic. It's negative. And especially in these last two games, the performances have been alarming."

Jacob Tanswell

Player form

"I've got to be honest, I think they've got a problem with the goalkeeper too. He makes me nervous. I think it would have probably been the best for all parties if he'd left last summer."

James

Aston Villa squad depth

"Villa are fourth with really one functioning and effective attacker in Morgan Rogers. Look at the rest of the attack. They don't really contribute too much."

Jacob Tanswell
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The Athletic FC Welcome to the Athletic FC podcast with me, Ayo Akimoleri. At the end of January, Aston Villa will level on points with Manchester City. Seven points off lead as Arsenal. One win in six though has left them clinging onto a place in the top four. So are the wheels falling off for Unai Emery's side. All right, in with us today, we've got two James. We've also got our Aston Villa correspondent Jacob Tanswell as well. All right, Jacob, let's start with you on this one back to back defeats for Aston Villa now. First wolves now Chelsea last night. Can you just explain what on earth is going on to this team? Yeah, we spoke before we came on about I've been on here about three times and the first time Villa in this right at the start of the season, everything was going awfully. Then a second time Villa could potentially push for a Premier League title. And now it's kind of gone back to how the early season was panning out. What's happened is it's pretty wild really because Villa are a fourth still. If you asked Emery and you asked supporters that, you know, especially back in September in that time, which was summer when they were stifled with PSR that they'd be fourth and still with a relatively good buffer from sixth place. They had taken that, but the mood at the moment is completely opposite. It's pessimistic. It's negative. And especially in these last two games, the performances have been alarming. Probably Chelsea, as we'll come on to, it was probably Villa's better attacking performances. They created more chances. They were a bit more dangerous. Chelsea gave them space that they haven't previously been afforded. But it was just a wild defensive display. Some of it reminded me of Angepasta Coglu Spurs that opposed the high line. And for a manager who prides myself on, you know, understated subtle intelligence, making sure that you're always in the game. It was a quite bizarre showing stew. Let's not forget Villa did go ahead. I think in opening two minutes or so, but were you surprised by what you saw on the field and at what point did you think, do you know what? If they play their cards right, they might actually get back into this or not. Yeah, I mean, but even the goal they scored in the first two minutes was just such a strange goal. I mean, it was littered with mistakes from both teams. Watkins really untiedly gave the ball away trying to find one dear. And then Enzo Fernandez gave it back to them. And then Douglas Dewey's had two attempts at playing that pass. I don't even think Bailey's cut back was clean. But obviously, you take the goal and it's a great platform for them on the face of it. It never felt like that. I never felt like Villa had any control in that game at all. And, you know, as Jacob mentioned there, without the ball, they were just so loose. They were so vulnerable to that ball in behind. There was lots of space on the flanks. I actually felt sorry for Villa's fallbacks. I felt there was so exposed. I mean, Ganache right has been trying to find form. Well, he couldn't have had a better opportunity last night. And I didn't think he was brilliant. I thought he had a good game, but at times I thought he was wasteful too. I mean, he should have had a goal. But he had so much opportunity to get a cash on that side who was totally exposed. You had the feeling that the goals were coming for Chelsea, that equalizer. You know, Gusto gets in on the right. And then in the middle, it's too the what? Mings and Conzer should be able to deal with J. Petro. But J. Petro, like he was all night, so proactive with his movement. Conzer's on his heels. And yeah, you know, even though there were other moments in the game where Villa had chances as Jake was mentioned there. I always felt Chelsea would score again. I was constantly thinking they're going to get in. They're going to get in. And I think when you look at Villa now, you just have this feeling like they've lost their way a little bit. There's not enough goals in the attacking players. They're clearly missing some key members of the team, you know, through injury, McGinn, Kamara, Tullamans. And I've got, you honest, I think they've got a problem with the goalkeeper too. He makes me nervous. And I think it would have probably been the best for all parties if he'd left last summer. I think there's a vulnerability there. And that must affect the team as well. Yeah. I mean, goals are interesting, Jacob, because you couldn't help but look at your Appedra with that hat trick and think, Oh, I swear, Oli, what gives you to score goals like that? You know, those kind of movements as well. I know he had a goal chalked off. But, you know, you've written about this, especially with Oli Watkins. It sort of feels as though there was a moment in this season where we thought it was going to kick off again. But I think all round as a season, even he might be disappointed with how he's played. Yeah, he would do. And he's spoken publicly, Emory, even John McGinnis, spoken publicly. Watkins does tend to go on these droughts. It has been quite a streaky striker throughout his career, really. But this drought is pretty prolonged. And if you actually look at the numbers from the last three years, he's regressed since his peak in the 23-24 season. The minutes per goal ratio is far lower than what it should be. He doesn't contribute as much as he did with assists, build up play. It seems like a sharpness. It's not quite there and no early in the season. And last summer, he was managing assists on his knee, which meant that he couldn't always train. He had to sometimes stay inside do some gym work. He was managing that. But yet, he continues to play. He plays a lot of minutes. And he's struggling. And yesterday's game was a kind of encapsulated his season, really. He scores a goal narrowly off side. The game may be changed there because if it had to go in half time of the lead, they can regather themselves. They can maybe become a little bit more defensively compact. And we can adjust the shapers slightly. But he's ruled out off side. He then misses a big chance to pull the trigger in the second half, chose to then get another goal. And it's almost sums up his luck. But also the fact that he's kind of been on the decline for a little while now. And it's quite remarkable as well, either. Villa asked a fourth with really one functioning and effective attacker in Morgan Roger's season. Look at the rest of the attack. They don't really contribute too much. Emibu Benderes fits the starts. Leon Bailey's come back. Okay, he registered in the cis yesterday. But he's been pretty poor since returning from Rome in January. If you mark Morgan Rogers, which a lot of teams have found recently, in terms of compacting the middle, lead to Dunett, Brentford had done it, Wolves have done it. And that actually in turn made Henry Schiff, Rogers to the left yesterday. You kind of solve a lot of Villa's issues. And having your number nine be so ineffective in recent times, that's a large reason why. Yeah, but what about Tammy Abraham? I mean, I know he's a recent acquisition. And he's been at Villa before. You'd like to think, perhaps let's mix it up a little bit upfront. We've got a couple of options here. Do you think he's been used effectively by Unite Emory since he's arrived at Aston Villa? Yeah, there's a school of thought among several people at Aston Villa that, although Emory's this demanding taskmaster of a coach, he does give you immense loyalty if you've previously won him over. You look at Leon Bailey last season. He was pretty ineffective for all of it, actually. But he continues to play Olly Watkins, eight goals and 39 appearances so far, the season, having to go more than every 330 minutes still continues to play. Players that are new to the system, they have to do a lot for Emory to trust them really. Probably since January 2024 of Morgan Rogers, there's been no player that's really come in and fitted into the system. It's always the tried and trusted players. And if you look at the starting line up last night, eight of the start and 11 were there in 2021. And if you compare that to the opponent's Chelsea, whether they're with their turn off players and how quickly they can rejuvenate squads, it's quite stark. I've found a really interesting, Jacob, what you're saying, reading your articles, because Emory clearly has this idea that even if you're not just a trust, but if you're out of form, the best way he thinks that you get your form back is by carrying on playing. I see that differently. I think sometimes it comes a point when you need to give a player a break and take them out the team for their own to help them mentally as well with their form. And also I think it sends quite a negative message to the rest of the squad that almost people aren't accountable for performances in a way and that they just keep playing. And you know, you'd look at it on the face of it and think, surely Abraham deserves a chance now. Or what's the point in bringing him in in a way? Yeah, one of the reasons why Villa continues to show very closely with PSI is because they always try and sign plug-in and play players and high salaries, experience players. But yeah, they don't really tend to come in and make that immediate impact which is always what Villa outlined before they arrived really. They sent the same for Tammy Abraham. They said they wanted a striker that could hit the ground running. Yeah, he's not really being given the opportunity. And regarding Emory playing players through bad form, he would argue that he's been vindicated with Morgan Rogers because Rogers was very poor start of the season. But he thought if I play through it, he's going to build this robustness later on in his career and he'll benefit from it. And actually, as it's transpired, he was vindicated in doing so. But there's other players who are a little bit older, have been working with Emory a little bit longer. And you start to wonder, is it bad form? Or is it just their overall performance now on what they are? And I think there has been that worry from players coming in thinking, I don't really get a chance. What if I do get a chance to be 20 minutes and I have to perform exceptionally to dislodge a player that's been here for three, four years because Emory has... I wouldn't say favorites, but he has these players that he feels that he can trust to execute the game plan and he feels that they might not work on one game. But he trusts him over time to come good. And right now, you're not really seeing that. Steve, back on the Oli Watkins point, there was a time where people were saying, if Harry Kane's not playing, Oli Watkins is our guy. There's a woke-up coming up this year. Is he talking himself out of that woke-up squad on this current fall? Yeah, it's interesting. It's not long ago we were thinking like that. And you remember his impact in the Euro's, right? You know, scoring key goal and semi-final. And there would have been people thinking, Kane, that's tired. Does Watkins not deserve to start? And if it was that narrative changed a lot now. You know, it's only what Jacob 13 months ago asked and were trying to sign him in the January window, right at the end. I think last summer he was on Man United's radar now. You look at him and rightly or wrong, you think, well, what is the market for Oli Watkins now? And in terms of England, if we're talking form, then no. He's not Kane's deputy. But it isn't always form with England. We know that managers will pick players or sometimes on what they've done for the country in the past. But the other question here is, who are the alternatives? And you look at the top scorers chart and then you're probably looking at, if you're going on goals in the Premier League this season, I'm form Danny Wilbeck's 35 now in Harvard-Lewen. And I didn't realise Harvard-Lewen was only 28, by the way. Harvard-Lewen feels like he should be 34 to me. It's been about for a bit, hasn't he? I don't think he's played in England since 2021. You know, that's a long time. So, but if we're talking now, you know, looking at those three and looking at form, you'd have to say that Watkins is at the back of the queue. I guess the worry for England is, you know, unless I'm missing someone I don't see another obvious alternative to Kane. And, you know, that is a concern. But, you know, Watkins would need, I think, a really good run between now and the end of the season. Also for himself, for his own confidence, his own self-belief, not just to justify his inclusion in that England score. This is the Athletic FC podcast with I.O. Akimolere. Let's move on to the chase for Champions League places, because from Walsh win over Liverpool to the game at Villa Part between Villa and also Chelsea, it's been a big round of results in that race for Champions League qualification. Jacob, how damaged do you think it's been? Now, we see Villa sort of slowly slipping down that top four, top five, for their Champions League qualification. But also, I've got to say, the Bay and Co-efficiency, top five might just do it for them. Yeah, it's been damaging. I think, taxically, every, probably for the first time in this Villa career actually has been repeatedly getting it wrong in terms of starting line-up and fans actually started to push back. 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