Joel Tudor on Football Social Daily: "Brian Madjo, 17-years-old, breaks Patrick Kluivert's 30-year record for the you...

This is Football's Social Daily PSG remain the side to beat in Europe after seeing our fast and villa in the UEFA Super Cup, but have the villains unearthed a new gem in the shape of Brian Madgel. The 17-year-old scored and was the stand-up player in Salzburg last night despite Desiree Duet's goal of winning it for the Parisians. Elsewhere, Man United battled to a 1-1 draw with Leeds in Dublin in a game that made history but was cut short by children wanting selfies with three minutes remaining, how preseason can you get? We'll get into it all on today's Football Social Daily with me, Marley Anderson and Joel Tudor. Joel, did you get yourself it? Do you are there in Dublin? Do you have a little selfie with your tealamans? I don't even know who I would even get a selfie with at this point, to be honest. But no, if anyone watched the game, it was quite funny here in the commentary. First of all, this can get in the scene, we aren't going to get in the scene in a while, but why do cameras not pan on people running on the pitch? I want to see the answer. How can you describe something that is as fun as that, where you can see the crowd reacting to it like it's a hound race and you can't see it. It feels like you can see a buffet but you can't have a little peck, it's annoying, I don't like it. It's not streak as any more, is it? It's just people who like it on the pitch and have a little shoulder roll past the security guards. Yeah. I'm not sure there was any security by the looks of how many got on, because once I think once the first guy got on, I think he'd come on with his mate and they came on for two, like there was two at once, so it was kind of like, oh, they've slipped through the net. And then once they never got caught, the third one came on, the fourth one came on, and I think last count, there was about seven kids that got selfies to the point where the referee just went, well, there's clearly no security. So we'll just blow up and have a penalty shoot out instead. But yeah, it's just, it's almost like it's utter woke nonsense to quote that Sean Daichmium, isn't it, where you're not allowed to film them in case they're promoting political statements that you're not really allowed to do, or in case they're naked. But in this case, it's just, it's just some kids having selfies, like let's have a look, like let's get the, let's see what everyone's looking at, because there's nothing more frustrating than you've got to look onto Twitter and say somebody who's filmed it from the crowd and stuff. And then you see, oh, it's just a kid ignoring 20 players just to make a B-line for Bruno Fernandez, who was quite happy to take selfies and stuff. But yeah, who would you have gone for if you were, if you were one of those bright-eyed kids, Joel, I reckon you're a new set of Masrawee enthusiasts. Yeah, who would I go for? Yeah, it has to be Bruno, it's the only one that actually wears the badge with a bit of pride these days, so yeah, probably Bruno. Yeah, I think if I was, if I was in a Newcastle stand, I wouldn't go for any of them because it's inevitable that they're about to get fucking sold in the next couple of years. So the picture is not going to age well. But something that has aged well is Brian Madjo, because Jesus Christ, what has that kid been eating? 17 years old, Villa have finally been able to register in for games. There's been a bit of back and forward about his registration period and lots of red tape to cut through with Brian Madjo's registration and things like that, but he's playing now. He's playing for Villa and I think they might have a new star on the hands because that guy was an absolute handful for a defence, which is just won the European title two years in a row. They had no answer for a 17-year-old up front and I don't know whether you, what you're making his performance, Joel, but he's being likened to Romelu Lukaku and Erling Harlan for his powerful sort of way of playing, took his goal well, could have had a few more to be honest if he had a little bit more composure. But he was the standout headline from the match, really, wasn't he? Yeah, so just a bit of a backdrop about Brian Madjo because I only heard about him because of the court of arbitration case where they were desperately trying to register him. And I was thinking, you know, why have Villa so desperate to register a 17-year-old? It's not as if he's going to feature that much and I'm sorry I had a few decent games in preseason. And then I looked at his history and he was born in Enfield. His dad was Guy Madjo who was a former Cameroonian player. He then moved to Luxembourg as a child, represented their senior national team, then switched his allegiance back to his country of birth, which is England. And then he went to Metz, sorry, he went from Villa to Metz, I mean, from Metz to Villa, excuse me, for a fee of £10 million and then obviously fee for block them for trying to register him because of his age. And then that was all upheld and completely squashed by CIS because of the fact that he was born in England. And I was thinking, okay, well, let's see what the reason was for him to be so desperately registered. My God, he made a great account of himself yesterday, didn't he? 17-years-old, breaks Patrick Clive at his 30-year record for the youngest player to score in a super cup final. If that's one better way to make your name on the stage than that, then I don't know what is to be honest. I think Villa fans almost deserve this new upcombing of a young striker since John DeRam because I'm not even a Villa fan and I'm still not over that of what could have been with him in those six months he had a Villa. But yeah, it looks like a decent bit of business for now, six foot four at 17. And I'm always quite wary of the guys that are very, you know, very tall and very athletic at 17 because you don't, because obviously your body's still growing at that age and you don't know exactly how it's going to develop in the future. But for now, I think looking at him in his performance yesterday and also just in pre-season, Villa could have someone who could take the pressure off Oli Watkins and also take the pressure of having to go into the market again. Yeah, I mean, he looks ready. I went straight to Fantasy Football this morning to try and see how much he was thinking he'd be like five million or something, he's not even on the game yet. So they've got an interesting thing to do now of like, how do you price him because he's clearly a beast, but he's never kicked a ball in the Premier League before. So we'll wait and see how that happens, but he was great. I thought the way he was sort of bulldozing, like, experienced centre-offs like Marquinios. There was ones where I think he ran into him and just barrelled him over. The goal he scored was he had a guy hanging off him when he was connecting with it. There was another one where he should have scored a header. That was a bad mistake to be fair. I think he closed his eyes a bit early and got the contact all wrong for it. But yeah, as you say, I don't think Villa have had two good strikers since John DeRan was making an impact at Villa Park and was practically number one choice striker at one point and then he left for the money of Saudi Arabia and that all went tits up. Now he's playing in Russia or Turkey. I'm not sure where he is now, but that's one for Unai Emery, to nice headache to have as the saying goes. But that kid's been eating his veg, hasn't he? I don't know what they serve in Luxembourg when he's growing up, but he must have been on the good stuff because he is a specimen at 17 years old. I was going to say the last duo Asden Villa had, was he not Juan Pablo Angel and Gabi Aguán a lot of John Coruma Christ. Maybe. Yeah, I can't even, as soon as I think of a Gabi Aguán, I just think of all these horrendous takes in the media and his accent just goes through me because it takes him 20 minutes to say a sentence because he speaks so slow, he's like, oh god, right. Yeah, it'll be an interesting season for Asden Villa because obviously they've lost a couple of key personnel in that first 11 team as well, which is always difficult to replace. But I think if you're going to have any manager when you're 17 years old, trying to guide you the way in this football landscape right now, I think Unai Emery's perfect for him. And also at Villa, imagine if he was coming through at Arsenal or Man United or Chelsea, there's a lot of pressure straight away to perform. At least at Asden Villa, he'll be slowly guiding into it. But you know what, Fair Play to Villa's recruitment team granted is only his fifth game for Asden Villa. So I think people need to temper expectations as well. But I'm sure he'll get a lot of opportunities next season with all the Cup games, Europe, a lot of Premier League games to come, so yeah, watch this space with him. Aside from him, I'm sorry, but Kroir Exkelier, how the hell no Premier League team bought him from Napoli when he was available, escapes me. This guy, he's almost like the modern-day Georgie Hadge at this point. He is so good, genuinely, so that finish, you know where you cut, you cut sin and you think he's going to go outside of the post on his, on his far side, where then he quickly does a snapshot to his left and the keeper hadn't even realised the shot he'd even been taken. He's just, he's phenomenal, he's absolutely phenomenal and I think in a different world, like for example, when Pablo Neved won the Ballon d'Or, a Juventus, I think it was in 0-3 and it was a terrarium, real David Beckham to it. I know his numbers are not fantastic, but if you're going to judge a player based on the eye, he wins it. He's just something else and I know his age being playing for Georgia also doesn't help him in the sense that he's never going to be competing for the European Championships or the World Cup and that's a real shame because if he was French, for example, if he were winning it every single season because he's just, I just love watching him play. I think he is so good to watch. I'd pay money to just go and watch him play at PSG. Yeah, he's a fantastic player. There was interest in him in the Premier League before he went to Napoli, I think, from Daniel Multibulli and was it, well, God, he probably wouldn't have hit the high tee would have if he'd gone to Chelsea 2-3. I'm sorry, after Napoli, after Napoli, not prior to Napoli. Sorry, no, there was apparently interest in him back then as in before he went to Napoli, but obviously teams passed up an emitter. It's a big old move, isn't it, from from Georgian football to English football, everyone missed out on him and it's the one that got away. But there might be another chance because Kavitra Kavarachkeli's brother is called Tonike Kavarachkeli. And if you see of highlight of him playing, it is like a region. He dribbles the same. He plays the same position. He's approach and touch. His technique is all, it's like a perfect clone of him. I think he's 16 at the minute. He's born in 2010. So he's still playing in Georgia for Daniel Multibulli, but there's going to be scouts everywhere for that guy because because of what his brothers do and he's a fantastic player. Kavitra Kavarachkeli, what a player. Has there ever been a brother that has become as good as the good brother? Because I can't. Has any younger brother that's a Clipster's older? Yeah, or even vice versa. There's always one standout brother. And the other one is usually like a leap below or a level below. I can't remember two brothers that have been as good equally as maybe. As I can say, Kolo and Yaya are different positions, but equally both very good in their own positions. I think Yaya was a level above though. Yeah, Yaya was top five in the world at one point. Kolo never, never quite was, I don't think. Very good, but not that level. Um, yeah, Gary and Phil, Gary was always clearly better. Philippo and Zagin Simone, Philippo was always clearly better. Simone Zagin, Simone is the better coach right now. So that's reversed it off there. Fabio and Raphael, the full box at my night, I think Raphael was always slightly better. I mean, the level, yeah. The level of the pair of them, you know, worlds never created. Yeah. Shola and Sammy Amiobi, I think Shola got him, got him beat there. But yeah, maybe watch this space, because Tornicke Gavarage Gellia is coming through and he'll be PSG on that. Regardless, that would take a long time. I reckon, man, you know, it'd take a pun. I just want to see what happens. Just get him in. Let's see. I'm sure they won't charge too much or he might, you know what, he might have a, a bit of a boost on his price. Just for the fatty as his second name. So, I don't even know what they'd want for him. All right, welcome back to FSD. We've just been discussing PSGs, Win or Reston Villa in the way for Super Cup in Salzburg. Back on these shots of just over the Irish Sea in Dublin, there was history made at Krog Park. It was the first game of football there for many may years. It was Man United versus Leeds at Krog Park, which is if you don't know Krog Park, it's essentially for Irish sport only. So, hurling and the All Island Final, just a month ago they had the All Island Final. There, where history was made there with male winning the first title in something like 82 years or something like that. But there was over 80,000 to watch Man United play a relatively drab one-one draw with Leeds. Again, sent mentioned before, it was overruled by selfie wanters in the end, which is very, very preseason. But what did they make of the game drill? Because there was a fair few mix of youth and experience and no rash food and people like that. And it was, I don't know what you really sort of get from games like that. It's hard to make an assessment, isn't it? You've seen teams win one out of five games in preseason, and then go and win three trophies in the season. Or you'll see teams win all of their preseason games, and then look absolutely appalling at the start of the season. It's hard to assess. But one thing that concerns me with United is not actually the team. It was that I got into a bit of a rabbit hole prior to the podcast on previous transfer sales in different windows from Man United versus Man City or Chelsea. And one of the biggest things that alarms me, I was looking at some names like Fakundo, Pellistry, Teedumengi, Joel Pereira, Axel Twanzibi, Fosumensa. And I was alarmed to see that majority of these guys have either not got clubs, or they're at very low level clubs. And then you look at Man City, and majority, probably 75% of the kids that they have coming through. They're all getting sold for 20 million plus. And that obviously helps them make these big transfers that they're doing now, obviously alongside big, big sponsorships, which is still out in the open. But strictly speaking on transfers, I'm actually alarmed that Man United have fallen so far behind when it comes to youth, because that academy, I'm probably talking now, 20 years ago, was one of the top ones in the world. And now I don't think it's top 10 in the world in terms of producing very good talent. It actually made me feel quite resounded knowing that majority of the kids that we saw are out playing for United in that preseason and don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that every single youth prospect can make it to the first 11, the chances are slim. But even when they leave Man United versus when academy prospects leave City, you know they're going to be playing at very different levels. The Man City prospects will be top players for clubs in Europe, in Premier League, whereas Man United ones, you either don't hear from them again, or they can't find clubs. And it really alarmed me, because looking at some of the names, Paddy McNair, Tyler Blackett, we're playing for New Mexico City and teams that I've barely even heard of before. And I was just thinking, how has this Man United structure got to the stage where I guess from a young age, if a parent, let's say for example, for you, Marley, let's say your son is a prospect when he's six years old and Man City and Man United are coming to you. Man City is saying, by the way, look at the pathway of all the plays that come through us. We offer education, we offer this, we offer that. And Man United come and you say, well, it's probably like a 0.5% chance to be able to play anywhere near the first team. And if he doesn't, he's probably barely going to have a career in football. You know which one you're going to choose. And I think that's probably it. From the very, from like six years old onwards, parents are choosing Man City over Man United, purely because of what they're laying out, as your kid has got a very high... Not a high success rate, but you get one of me. When you're the crop of the talent that they have coming through, you have a good high chance of having a very good career in football, whereas a lot of the Man United kids, they either have to drop out of football or they're having to go to very, very low level clubs to actually have a career, which is really, it's sad to see because we have an amazing area, Manchester, a very good, very good local amateur teams that previously were getting taken, you know, Danny Welbeck play for a real, with in short town, which is a very popular team in Manchester. And now it seems all the kids are just going to city. You make a good point there because if you think back to 2017, 2018, when Louis Van Gogh was in charge of Man United, there was Cameron Bothwick Jackson came through and it was like, well, this kid looked quite good and you're looking at him now, since leaving Man United, he's been on loan more times than a DVD at Blockbusters, went to wolves, went to leaves, went to scumthorpe, went to trammy, went to olden, sign for olden, went to Burton Albion, went to Poland in Slask Rocklaw. Wait, what the fuck are they? But it's that old Joseph Merino quote, isn't it, see when people leave Man United, see who they are, see where they play, see if they play? And it's spot on because Man City have absolutely left Man United in the dust when it comes to the pathway. And look at the players around the world that have come through the Manchester City Academy. Morgan Rodgers came to the City Academy. Shay Charles has just signed from Southampton to full him for 30 million quid. Southampton also signed Gavin Bazoonu from City, Samuel D'Ozi, Romeo Lavia, all came from Manchester City, Lavia, went 50 million to Chelsea, Liam Delap, 30 million to Chelsea in the end, Jim Trufford, Cole Palmer. This one goes on and on and on. Yeah, the next couple are the Emile Heskey's sons, Regan and I forget the other one's name, but they're great players as well. And they're hovering up, like, look at Liverpool with Emile Heskey and Leicester. They were Heskey's clubs, so they should have first, they've done him, but instead he's going, I'm going to go to the best academy in the country and it's Manchester City. And they go Regan and his brother both playing for City's under 21s and doing pretty good things. So it's how the landscape has changed in the last probably 10, 15 years. Yeah, I'd love to see we can get on some kind of academy worker at Man City just to understand the structure of it all, because I know their infrastructure is increased massively. If anyone's ever gone to the Etihad campus where the Corp are in and now is in Manchester and a number of other, the air are drawn, there's so many things going on there. As a man United fan, I'm not envious of Man City in any way in terms of history or whatever, because I'm so proud of what my clubs achieve. But in terms of the plan they have to go forward, I am very envious because you know that you can see they have a plan forward for not only the next five years, but the next 10, 15, 20 years. And I know there's question marks around it all when it comes to the sponsorships and whatever else. But aside from that, they have a plan and they put in the money in the right places. And again, Man City are producing top quality talent like you've said and not everyone can get into the first team. Sometimes is the case of context where a player gets injured, Phil Thode will come in, he makes it his own, Corp harm and never really got that chance to just integrate himself when Chelsea rests his history. Jaden Sandcho, another one, I know his career's gone a bit downhill, but he became one of the best prospects in Europe at one point. The thing is, the fact that they're investing so heavily in this system they have in youth product with players, it funds their future in terms of who they can buy. There's a reason why they can go and do an outlay on Anderson 450 million because they know every single window. And you can look from the last eight windows they're making a minimum of 60 million pounds on just youth product. And that's pure profit. That's not just making a five million outlay on the balance sheet, that's pure profit, which they can put towards them all to sizing and then going for another bigger player for their team. And it's sustainable. This is what sustains clubs and I can't believe, you know, when I think back to the last plays that Man United have even brought through or sold for a profit from the academy, it's gone a chore, but we signed him from our let's go to the academy, so I don't really know if that can. Definitely doesn't count from that. Alejandro Garnacho didn't turn up playing for Fletcher, Moss Rangers. He turned up playing in Spain and thinking he was the dog's bollocks, yeah. Well, this is the thing. You look at within Shaw Towney, how Wes Brown coming through there, you had Daniel Wellbeck, I believe Jesse Lingard had a stint there. I don't know what's happened with Man United's ability to attract players, but I think right now it's the fact that City can offer parents. I remember, for example, I'm not gonna name the player, but there was a Brazilian kid who came to my high school when I was young and this is in Manchester and he was a prospect for Manchester City's, like school boys, around 14, 15. There was a report that came out later on when he eventually left City and he didn't reach the heights that he was gonna reach, that Manchester City offered his data house, they offered his family security, they offered everything, this is like really widely reported. And I'm just wondering to City just have an upper hand when it comes to being able to offer financial support, educational support, a runway to have a career. I think there's just so many things that are good for a parent because they control their kids career at that point to say we're putting you through the Man City Academy and it's the best. It's not just people who potentially have something there, it's the best young kids going there, even to the point where was it Jeremy Moga from Lester? Yeah, he denied going to Arsenal, which might have even been a better pathway, probably for just looking at the future and thinking, even if I don't get in the Man City first team, because my name is attached with coming through it Manchester City, I will have a career. Exactly, exactly. There's so many instances of just almost failed potential and you look at that man United lineup last night, and you see Harry Amas, who actually played quite well, Shay Lacey, Tyler Fletcher, Jack Fletcher. I think Tyler Fletcher made a mistake for Leeds his go away, tried to control it and Dan James nicked it off him. I was just thinking that's the type of mistake that gets you to league one and championship, maybe. It's not Premier League sort of prospect level, even though you are the director of football, sun, or whatever, you know what I mean. But like I said, just on both with Jackson there, 10 appearances were man United in five years. He went on loan to Wolves who were in the championship at the time, six appearances, went on loan to Leeds who were in the championship at that time, one appearance, then made 29 appearances for his next loan club, Scumthorpe United, in league one. So it's that level that you have to try and rescue back. But in terms of the game last night, did you think, can you take anything from it in terms of quality or things to look forward to for the season? Other than Bruno Fernandez might get taken off penalties by a rule in that one, comfortably wide of the post. Yeah, he needs to stop that stop and start running at the league, he never, ever helps him. He needs to stick to the one he did before that. One thing I'm encouraged with is the fact that Celia Mann's in the middle, Ease is so much pressure off Bruno Fernandez in terms of playmaking. In terms of his passes in the final third is so good. I understand why Austin Villa fans were so gutted to see him go because he is such a great playmaker in there. So luckily we have someone else who can actually dictate play rather than waiting for Bruno to put in a killer pass or make something happen. I think it takes a lot of weight off his shoulders. And I think between them they'll have such an integral part of our playmaking next season. The biggest part that absolutely worries me and we'll reserve judgment until the window seems to be grinding to a close. But I cannot believe the life of me that we've only made two transfers because we are one injury in that midfielder way from the whole team just collapsing, really badly. I mean, you look at, we've got champions league football next season, which is the first time we've been in the league system, so what is next for two games? And you've got league cup if we go far, FA cup if we go far, plus the effort, the Premier League, of course. And I am really worried about players either burning out, injuries, chess goes not even played since. To May or April, he must have a serious injury because not featured at all in preseason. Mace amount again injured. The team is fragile. You've got Delix still coming back from his injury. Martin has just come back late with an injury. I'm just baffled beyond words of what these owners are looking at and thinking this team is okay to go and play into four competitions next season. I'm really sad about it because when it got to May, everyone was saying that Man United were going to be the team that would have had the most movements in the Premier League and it was going to be a really ambitious window and I've seen nothing of the sort. It just seems like whenever Man United to get champions league football, the ownership seems to think that we're safe and they can take the foot off the gas. There's a record of it, there's a pattern of it. We have the best transfer windows when we don't have champions league football and they seem to take the foot off when we have it. I'm very cautious when it comes into next season. At the end of last season, I thought, Pet Guardiola leaving Liverpool getting a new manager, Arsenal can they maintain their form? Maybe it's a chance for us to start staking a claim into getting a bit closer to the top. I'm not saying challenge, I'm getting closer. Next season, I think it's about hopefully getting top four again, which is ridiculous. I don't know if we are that broke that we can't afford to do anything in the window or the management are just basically saying there's no value in the window. I'm sorry, but if you're going to keep up with everyone else, you're going to have to pay at some point. So yeah, the optimism that I had in May has really dried up from what, seven days until the season starts and I think a lot of Man United fans share that at the moment. Well, one place you can maybe raise some funds is Marcus Rashford because he didn't play last night for the years in training, he's returned to Carrington to train with the lads ahead of the season start. But do you think he goes? Because his options aren't, he's not stacked with options. He doesn't seem to want to stay. It seems like he's waiting for something, but just not sure what that is with 17 days to go until the transfer window closes. Well, from what he's reported, salary is, then I know what it is, something north of 250 grand a week. I would say that that's the hindrance, isn't it? No one's going to want to take that on. He's going to probably think, why should I reduce my salary when I've committed to this at Man United? I'm quite shocked that, for example, in Austin, Villa haven't come in and said, we'll take him or the fact that Barcelona haven't said, yeah, or even Barcelona have even said no to a 25 million clause, which I think is pretty fair, given how it put you gave them last season. But I'm just, with Rashford, it's a really tricky one for Man United fans because the way he left, he just looked like he'd down tools in his body language and then when he was at Barcelona, the things he was saying about, I don't really see myself returning and I'm happy in Barcelona and obviously the feeling wasn't mutual and now he's back in Manchester. Time will tell to see what his attitudes like because I really don't see him going. I think his wages are a massive stumbling block and I know Carrot is going to probably treat it like a new sign and I hate that cliche of a sentence because you're not fooling me when it comes to that. We should be making more signings than having a new Revitalizer Rashford come back. But you know what, at the same time, it's not about Carrot getting something out of Rashford, it's about Rashford getting something out of Rashford. He's 28 years old, he's not a youngster anymore. You don't need to manage it to get something out of you at 28. Let's take some accountability now. It's up to him. His man United career is down to him now. If he either books up and says, I'm going to make the best of the last two years potentially man United or he takes the hit and says, you know what, I actually don't want to him and they take a hit on my way just to get a move out because let's not forget the power is in the players hands. If you really want to move desperately, he can reduce his salary demands. In the same way, Jaden Santro could reduce his salary demands and he's still without a club. They can do it, but you know, money talks at the same time which I totally understand. So let's see, honestly, I'm really just indifferent within coming back because I don't know what kind of Rashford we're getting. Yeah, I think the thing with Rashford is he knows because of his age that this is his last big contract. If he gets a move and takes a cut, it's never going to go up from, let's say he takes a cut to 150 grand. It's likely never going to go up from there anymore. If he goes to another club, let's say, Napoli and get 150 grand a week, like MacTom and I did. He doesn't then leave Napoli at the age of 31, 32 and get more money unless he goes to Saudi and becomes a, sort of prostitute for that league, basically. But yeah, we have to see where his future lies. FSD's future lies in episode 2003 coming at you next week. We'll be back at Niles back next week for a full complement of your favorite three podcasters. Unless you Gary, who always comments on us but if I slugging us off, so I don't know why you're listening to be honest, Gary, but if you made it this far, welcome along. I think it's Stockholm Syndrome is setting for you mate. But I hope you're having a great day. And because we are, we're just vibing, talking about football and we will be next week because the Premier League starts next week and we're all happy to see it return because we're all ready to board the roller coaster that is the Premier League. So we'll be back next week for me, Marley Anderson and Joel Tudor who's been wearing a rather fetching hat from his World Cup exploits, which unfortunately you can't see. It might put a picture in the telegram group but links in the description to that. Also subscribe to the podcast. That's the best way you'll never miss an episode. But until the next one, we'll see you then. Football Social Daily.