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Thursday's Tony Football Show, running up a whopping Wednesday of action. Wednesday Champions League, in Naples, it's Kevin at home and a lone goal for Arsenal, while at Anfield, a mechanic sees off visitors with an improvised rocket. We round up the Wednesday action, the XGs, the OGs, the six goals for PSG. We hear about Chelsea and Leeds, nine-goal Karabakh up Banger, and we look ahead to the weekend. The Manchester Derby, Chelsea Hull, and so much more in this totally football show. Thursday, the 10th of September, thank you so much for joining us on this totally football show. Delighted to say that we're joined again by Duncan Alexander. Hello. Hi, Duncan. Also Agent Clarke is back. Hello. Agent, you were covering Arsenal. I was, yeah. That was a big game. Big game, yeah. And a man who was visiting Anfield, the ground, not the dog, onward. We don't know that. We don't know that. He might have brought. He might have brought Anfield along to Anfield, I think. Yeah, yeah. What are we talking about? Daniel's story knows, hey, Daniel. Hello, more of a cat man, if I'm honest. Yes. Well, famously. Remember, you got angry with me saying, I was going to get either two caps or one dog. You and Michael cut. I don't remember that, but that sounds very unbranded. Okay, let's hold the Champions League chat. So, what's the equation of two dogs, two cats is one dog? I was out with Daniel and Michael, and I was saying I was about to get a dog. Okay. And I said, we were thinking maybe getting two cats. And to be fair, it was Michael more than Daniel, but became quite agitated by this ratio of like, you know, one dog is as important as two cats. Right. Which I think, I think it's a perfectly fair race. Surely, if you were going to get two of anything, it would be dogs, because there's social, whereas cats tend to be quite independent. You say that, I've got three cats. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And with the reason we went beyond the one and a half dog is, the reason we went beyond the one is that we found out that our type of cat is lonely. Okay. And did you name it after a ground that you scored loads of goals there, Adrian? Actually, the oldest cat is named after Jack Wilshire. Is it? Yeah, yeah. Why did you name your cat after Jack Wilshire? Well, I gave naming rights to my son, my youngest son, my oldest son, rather, and he went for, he went for Jack, so there he is. What are the other cats called, her pearl and eyes, after St. Ives, which is a favourite destination for it. Okay. Yeah, there you go. No further questions, Your Honor. Hey, Daniel, you were at Anfield, and you weren't the only big name who was appearing there. There was quite the cuffuffle in the press box, I believe, on account of your neighbour. Yeah, so I put my bag down. It's always busy when you get to Anfield, so there's one seat left, and I realise my seat was next to the Andy Gray, who was returning after the dark forces had finally cleared years later to co-com's duty for Talksport without his other slush, better, slush, worse half, for which I think everybody present was pretty grateful, and it sounded like he went really well for Gray on Talksport. They got what they wanted, is that right, Adrian? They did get what they wanted, yeah, the iconic line, what a hit son, for the mechanic to go, was it was a great hit? It was a great hit. Was there any off mic stuff that you were able to hear there? No, no, there wasn't. I didn't have my voice recorder from that hit location. Just as well, we're lovely to hear him back, and playing all the hits as well by the sound of it. All right, I had a little note here to have a moment of the Wednesday, because there was some pretty special moments, perhaps that's Daniel's, I don't know, we'll come back to him in a second, but Adrian, what was yours? I think it comes from the Barcelona game, which was kick things off nicely, some great goals in that game, weren't there? Goodness me, high quality. But the moment for me was Rafini's first goal, where he's put through, and then two defenders simultaneously slide in, like two synchronized swimmers, just in unison, and they just slide past, said Rafini, who does a lovely little dummy, and he sticks in a rock corner, it was beautifully choreographed, it was pure footballing art, and I understand that there's been some memes made of this already. The memes I'd been made, yeah. Volving canoes from the other things over. Yeah, yeah, it was an extraordinary moment. I mean, that was going to be mine, so yeah, I've been, Adrian sent me flying across the room, sliding out a little water, but I mean, if we're going to go for people being fooled, then maybe run on to Raho's back heel. Or Liverpool's equalizer was not equally delightful, but still good. Yeah, well, there were so many experiments, were they two fun goals as well, across the six games in the Champions League of Wednesday, two more Premier League sides getting wins, Arsenal 1-0 at Napoli, Martin Udgar, with his fourth goal in five matches this season. Liverpool, meanwhile, coming from a goal down, to beat Adelaide to go two-one in the game that Daniel was at, elsewhere. In the early matches, Basel and I put five past fine-ord. It's the fourth time in five matches this season that the Catalans have scored. Five goals from Marco Stuttgart, early on, meanwhile, beating Viking Stavanger, three-one, with Ermadin de Miravitch, with a 12-minute first-off hat trick. Woof! The other evening games, PSG, then we know, they scored six goals against Slovak and Brata Slava, managed to course by Janja Ture, Fern Torres, getting a hat trick on his Champions League debut for his new side. And Sporting came from a goal down to beat Galatasaray, three-one. On Thursday, there were six more games, including, by Munich against Boediglint, and Manchester United against Saba. Or Saba, as it's pretty much mandatory to pronounce them. Let's begin, though, with Daniel's excitement at Amfield. Liverpool two, Adletico Madrid one, Duncan, you watch this at home. Daniel saw it from the comfort of, well, considerable excitement of a press box seat next to Andy Gray, as Andoni Ureola picked up his second straight winner. Are things coming together, then, for his Liverpool, Daniel? I think there are two answers to that. First, tactically, I don't think so. The defence still looks weird. The fullbacks I can't work out. The midfield balance isn't quite there, although both central and midfield are scored. And the front three is fairly impossible to pass, because Rio and Gamori is playing on the left, which means Bradley Barclay is playing in his non-favour position, having arrived for 120 odd million, which I can't quite fathom. But that said, in terms of spirit, it's night and day. So in the last 19 games of last season, Liverpool didn't pick up a single draw or win, having trailed in a match. When they went behind, they looked really passive and flat and weak, and nobody looked like they were really fighting for on a slot. And in three games this season, they have trailed twice against Newcastle and Drawn, trailed twice against Forest and Drawn, and trailed here and won against the side, that let's remember, reached the Champions League semi-finals last season. So it's no mean feat. And I said about the Raw's Anfield, they did feel symbolic. He just didn't hear those last season. It felt like everyone was going through the motions a bit. And it felt a little bit like that before the game. It didn't feel like a big game, but as soon as Liverpool turned the game around, yes, there was a lot more feeling in it. And I suspect it is symbolic because of that. Well, so positives. Marcus Durenti, as you say, I'd like to go take the lead. It was Marcus Durenti, owner of a dog called Anfield, has been widely discussed, including on the commentary, I think, on TNT. Yes, Stephen Gerard said he was going to call his dog Goodison. It was a nice line, although I don't think he's record Goodison, maybe worthy of dog naming, but still. Call it what you want. How many goals have you scored at Ives, Adrian? Fully on the beach. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's fair. All right. But anyway, yes. So he scored, and he's got a dog called Anfield, because he scored five goals there against Liverpool in the Champions League. Yeah. Five. And in every other Champions League game he's ever played, which amounts to 54 other matches, five goals. So something magical about his trips to Anfield? Yeah. I mean, it's good. It's good that he's kind of, you know, signified it with a dog. Is that just going to go into the coincidence, Adrian? Or are there, is there a reason why a player would score more at a particular ground? Not really. I mean, you do get a good feeling. Like, yeah, I had a certain ground where you thought, where you've scored before, and you kind of look forward to going back there, because you've got that sort of muscle memory. Is it a confidence thing? I think so. Yeah, but everything you're doing for boys is sort of based around confidence. It was a nice goal. It was sort of like a joint assist. I thought from part, Julian Avarez, who played well, and then and then slightly the ball through nicely, the other part of the assist was obviously Kirkes. It was terrible defender, not for the first time, in recent, in recent weeks, months. It just doesn't look good enough for me. Kirkes, I think he, I think he needs replacing. And it's going to be difficult, because Irhaiola is the one who got the best out of him at Bournemouth. Perhaps, yeah, I just don't, I just don't know if he's, the certain players just can't cut it when the pressure of playing for a big club is on their show, isn't it? That's what I see in him. I also think the fact that Bournemouth were able to then slot in someone else and he looks even better is a bit of a warning for him possibly, yeah. All right, well, you enjoyed that, Adrian. What about the response from Liverpool Daniel? First of all, Dominic Slobazai with the Slobazai, with the Magnificent assists from Ronald Aura Hall, who's proving quite the revelation. Yeah, it was really interesting, because the midfield is meant to effectively now be servicing a very attacking front fall, with Flowne vs. Danghai at the pitch, with that new front three or new-ish front three. And yet, Slobazai was in the area plenty. Aurao, who's meant to be the defensive right back in comparison to Jeremy Frimpong, was playing the assist, obviously McCallister scored the second goal. I, again, I thought that was really interesting. The Barclay thing I get in that you're saying, well, he's the best player, so if we haven't really got a right-sided forward, he's the one who will be able to work it out. I thought there were signs last night of how that's going to take time, because Barclay missed three chances, all on his favourite right foot, but he's used to cutting in from the left and doing that kind of Terry on re-open up your body and curl it. For each of the chances he missed last night, he's having to go across his body, so it's completely, he just doesn't normally shoot that way at PSG, because he's normally coming in from the other side, and it looked quite awkward for all three chances. He obviously missed the one-on-one by going to the keepers left and putting it wide of the post. That I thought was really interesting. Ingamo was really direct, which helped, but he's that was fairly anonymous, so it took those central midfielders pushing up to actually make the difference. I don't know if any of that is sustainable. I don't think we're just going to kind of have to find out on the job of what Liverpool are like. I think the idea probably going forwards is to have Barclay on the left, and then Gack Poe on the right, who has looked quite good on the right in recent weeks, obviously he was ruled out of this game. Yeah, it's definitely a working progress, but I do think Erole has shown a really good ability, and he said this up to the game that athletics go set up in a way that they weren't expecting, and they tried to fix it during the first half, but he said we couldn't really properly fix it till half time. And it was quite an admission from him, but I think he's got the bind from the players, and it was in question. Yeah, I think the balance that Daniel talks about isn't quite there, because you've got four attackers that are kind of really high up. So you would imagine you'd have a pivot of more cautious players, but McAllister and Soberst like have both played a lot of their career as number 10s. You know, they're certainly box-to-box guys. So in effect, they have no hold in midfield unless Graven Bear plays. So I think it's something he will have to turn to in the end, Erole, but at the moment it's fun, because they go for it. Two in Zat of two, they're last two, and they've got Fulham at the weekend, which promises well, because Fulham are having a bit of a rotten time under former Liverpool player, Alvaro Arbaloa, three defeats out of three for them in the league. Was there something else you wanted to say Duncan? That's about Alexis McAllister's wonderful strike with his wrong foot. Well, yeah, we should, what I heard, bracket's son. Yeah, I mean, it was particularly impressive because A, it was with his weaker foot, and B, it came a day after he complained about not being a contract. Right. It was a nice moment. Timeyly. Yeah. Excellent. Right. Now, that was one Premier League side winning. Another one, Arsenal, we're doing it down in Naples, although not for the first time this week, it took a while before they could have liftoff, if you're not a main reference to their transport issues, which may have played a part in their inability to find the back of the net, despite an incredible, I mean, the stats at the level of their dominance as huge. They had the most shots on record of a Champions League match ever. Is that from a weight team or for any side? No, no weight team. And a weight team. So they had 26 shots. Their XG was 4.05. Napoli's very rare to see over for very rare. Napoli's was 0.22. Napoli only had one shot in the second half. Good lord. Adrian and I were discussing this before we began. And I was just making the case that although that speaks to incredible dominance from Arsenal, they were the better team and that. And they eventually found the winner with that incredible team move. Was it 29 passes, 10 outfield players? Yeah, and at the weekend, the goal from Havers was the first and only Premier League goal this season where all 11 players touched it in the move as well. So yeah, two memorable goals. Why would you look at the driver do this? I mean, yeah, look, Arsenal has got a set piece yet. Yeah, this is this is a dream start for our tetra in terms of shoving, you know, the criticism down down people's throat. So yeah, I know what you're saying. Well, I haven't said it yet, but what I was going to say, we can come onto this in a second because what you're also talking about there, the dream start. It has a lot to do, I think, with Martin Urdegard. Yeah, I mean, Urdegard, I thought he was 9.9.5 out of 10 against Chelsea. He was definitely 9.5 against Napoli. He was absolutely. Some choice, everything that he did was quality. I think he had the most touches of any Arsenal player. Yeah, most passes. Yeah, everything went through him. And so many of the passes were little threaded ones in the box, really clever. I mean, he's playing. And they were the passes. They just weren't going off last season. Yeah, and maybe he wasn't brave enough to play in the last season, because he wasn't feeling confident about his game. He would stop, go backwards and play it safe. And this season, he's thinking, no, I'm going to try these things. And I think he's been manning the match in four of the five Arsenal games if you include the community shield. He's been magnificent. And I thought it wasn't kind of a nice touch that he did it on the pitch where Kevin De Bruyne was playing, because it felt like a Kevin De Bruyne peak performance, obviously a left footer rather than right foot player, but he's obviously been compared to De Bruyne on a lot during his career. And De Bruyne was all right, but clearly not the man he once was, but Urdegard was just, yeah. Even it was next level. And look, I think the Napoli did hold a threat on the counter, but when you analyse the chances that Arsenal had, they really should have won this game four of five, Neil. I think they have some massive misses. The shooting, if I'm giving Urdegard nine and a half out of ten for his performance, Arsenal's shooting was 0.5 out of ten. It was that bad. They just left the shooting booth back in London. So it's actually good. Well, to be fair to Gokras, he didn't miss any shots. No, this is true. He didn't have any shots, didn't he? So just a quick number on that. Napoli, to counter this, an aptly, clearly come out to defend and try and hit on the break. And nine tenths of that plan, they followed pretty well. They defended well. They went on the break, the finishing, whether they have any shooting boots to them, but on without Scott Mitomani, whose absence I think was huge. And Kevin De Bruyne, who had a very frustrating night, and you could see, I felt there was one time when he squared a ball that you felt he sort of shot. But I think he was still thinking he was playing for a side that would have players crashing in on the box. Someone was definitely going to put that away. Harlem would have been there, wouldn't he? Yeah. And his look, as he turned around, looked around at who he was playing with, kind of, whether to be upset with them or just kind of go, well, here, this is where we are. It was quite telling, wasn't it, that look? I did reference that look in commentary as well because it was so telling. But very quickly on Yokores, Erdogard obviously made a lot of passes. What I did find interesting was that he only passed to Yokores once in the whole game. He passed three times to Caiabas, and Cai was only on, I think, for about 15 minutes. So that, in itself, is that partly victor in terms of his movement, does he need to be better? Or is it a lack of trust on Martin Erdogard's part? But he was, he was passing through everyone else. Was it the first server in a war between Norway and Sweden? Was it up to you, don't know? Yeah, no, I speak to a chasm within the arsenal. Right in the arsenal dressing. The line was taught. Definitely not crisis. So we're absolutely flying. A team driven by dissent. Yeah, it's hard to see that too. It's a happens to champions a lot, but it's a tough trip that awaits another tough trip that awaits Arsenal this weekend as they head for an 80-clock onsatting night kickoff. I don't understand why gamers with two teams that distant should have this late. It's great for fans, isn't it? You know, I mean, they're going to love that journey home. So 80-clock onsatting night, Arsenal are going to be at Sunderland who not only have granite shackle within their ranks, but also, I think I read it saying, the team that's conceded the fewest shots. So shots on target? Yeah, shots on target. Yeah, even fewer than Arsenal. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. I think it's three. Let me just point out, Arsenal only drew two two at the stadium of light. One of the best games of Lossi. That was good. Yeah, to remind me because... So Sunderland took the lead and then Arsenal fought back with Trossard putting them ahead and had obviously a lot of key goals, Lossi. And then it felt like a, you know, like Arsenal had turned around a new Arsenal on the game with a big moment. But then 94-minute physical Sunderland using their strength, Brian Brodery got the equalizer. And at the time, it was seen as this huge wobble and Arsenal's mental and physical strength, not there for the title challenge. So you imagine this weekend, that'd be a little bit calmer. Yeah. Yeah, I remember the game well. Sunderland was super physical. They went long. So both their goals came from Longbowls, win the first header, you know, and then it's scrappy. And yeah, it was one of those nights. I think Arsenal would have learned from it. Yeah, Sunderland had faced five shots on target in three matches, which is very, very impressive. Obviously, I haven't played what I regard as maybe top tier or position yet, the black cast. But that points towards a team that could make life difficult for Arsenal. They were very good. I thought I'd Brentford, but they were definitely the better team in that game. So it's a tricky one for Arsenal, but I've got to say that the way the team are playing at the moment, I think, yeah, they wouldn't be worried about anything. Really? Okay. Well, we'll talk more about what awaits this weekend at the Premier League a little bit. Later on, Napoli, meanwhile, that's their third straight to feet in their three games and all competitions so far this season, having been beaten by Como in Naples and then at the weekend, having been two goals up a way to enter the loss three to that game. So yeah, not going too well for them, Como incidentally, when we're making their Champions League debut and I'm on Thursday night, possibly it's already underway by the time you hear this. But that's again, I think a lot of people are intrigued by. Yeah, yeah, Paus and Fabric Amick. I'm not having this Thursday Champions League fixes. They don't feel right. And I tell you what else doesn't feel right. Oh, yeah. Arsenal with red shorts. Okay, did like that. I didn't like it in that. It looked like some sort of biononic knockoff. Sam, wow, not for me. There were worse things to beat. Other games took place on Wednesday. We'll get on to those next Wednesday. It's other games, so Barcelona get five goals of PSG. It's got six. Middle, it was against Slougham Bratislava. For in Torres with a hat trick on his Champions League debut. Also, it was Mandin Belligot two goals and two assists. So good stuff for a PSG team that hadn't won a game since that European Super Cup against Aston Villa and got beat at home to Monaco the weekend. And they can't be residing seven points off the top of the table in league. Barcelona, five goals against Firenord. Ajo knew you want to talk about some of the stuff that went on it beyond that magnificent shapes to shoot. And then dummies. Yeah, that was, that was glorious. Everything great goes. Luminium I was, he was on fire, wasn't he? Trickery. She scored a free kick. My dear, it was the one of the worst walls, your seal season in the Champions League. It kind of went through the wall. But yeah, he was, it is sort of impish. But it's obviously this was Rodries. It's debut alongside. Well, he played at the weekend as well. No, but as in Champions League, he played in Barcelona alongside Pedro. And I think that, that access, that's potential to be fairly, fairly strong in the middle of the park. And one sort of number that really stood out to me was Cabbassi, the young defender. Obviously, he's class. We saw him at the World Cup. He finished the game with the 99.1% pass accuracy. 108, completed passes out of 109, which isn't too shabby. But it works well. I'm not saying that for that. But yeah, I was skeptical. And I still am, actually, that Barcelona had a worthy of favourites tag for the Champions League. They are the biggest success. What's the knock against them? It's the tactics for a handsy flick. They've obviously got amazing talents and brilliant players, the scoring goals for fun. I just don't know if my team that plays handsy flick style of football can win it. I just don't know. When they come up against clever, smart, and talented opposition, I just think they'll be undone in the knockouts. I mean, that's how I look at it. Yeah, totally. I would say they have a team to make sure you watch everyone in their games, but don't bank on them, ending that 11 years of hurt or 12 years of hurt. Daniel, do you have a counterpoint? No, I completely agree. You're having watched the semi-finals against Hathletti last season. But with Rodri, they just got outsmarted. Yes, if he stays fit all season and is able to kind of be at peak performance all season, there is an argument that the World Cup was Rodri managing to distill everything and having had some rest and recovery over the previous six months. I don't know if he can play a 60 game season at that level. But yeah, I just think eventually a team will outsmart them probably not until the semi-finals, but yeah, I think PSG, you're more deserving favourites than them. Karim Adiyemi, another new rival, scored a goal and then unleashed a remarkable celebration. Almost from standing still, he did a backwards backflip, having first celebrated with his friends, then he motioned them away and just kind of flipped himself backwards. Yeah, it was impressive. Incredible. Probably as impressive as the strike, really. Yeah. Yeah. The average is Jesus. The average is Jesus. No, I didn't get many headers for us. No, I can't remember that many. Barcelona has scored 80 goals in 27 Champions League matches under Hansi Flick, but how many of the conceded, I don't know, but too many for them to have won. Final twice had the ball in the back of the net, disallowed four off sides, one of which was very. It's not so fairy, the words you never want to hear if you're late, but that speaks to Adrian's point that you will get these chances against Barcelona. Sporting came from behind. After the concession of an early goal to beat Galatasaray, three, one, probably the West Coast was another glorious free kick. This one from Rodrigo Zalazar. And the other game on Wednesday night was Stuttgart beating Viking Savanga, three, one. With that hat trait that we mentioned. On Demirvich, one of the kind of weird careers and that he's got a really, really, really good scoring record at club level as evidenced by Wednesday evening. But has only got four goals in with 44 cats for Bosnia. He's sort of seen as this like, they just want to shake him and be like, why are you not able to score goals? It's Bosnia and Andy Kohler. Well, that was the Champions League Wednesday night's action as mentioned six more games to come on Thursday evening. But we're going to be getting on next to the Premier League weekend. And also a quick mention of that amazing game. It's Stanford Bridge in the league cup. It's match day four of the Premier League already this weekend. There's opening three rounds flew by. Among the standout fixtures, there's a match to W'd Old Trafford, Sundland's visit from Arsenal, which we mentioned before. Adrian, you got a left field choice you want to pick out. I think Villa Forrest is a really interesting game. Yeah, B&B classical. It's the center parks classical, surely. But then I thought. Forrest Villa, that would be Forrest Villa. Yeah. Villa Forrest is... I see where you're coming from. Yeah, yeah. It did go initially over my head. But to your point. Well, it's interesting because it's a huge game Villa. I haven't scored yet. Another day one in the Champions League. It's a reunion of the Europa League semi-final at the last time Forrest visited them. They got pumped four-neil quite embarrassingly. But this time around, they got Glasner. And Oliver Glasner is Crypto Knight for Unomery. Seven meetings as a gaffer. Five wins for Glasner. Two draws, zero defeats. And I think in the last three games, Villa haven't scored against Glasner's team. And one thing I've noticed clearly about Forrest under him is that they've had some hard games, tough fixture lists. They're not giving up many chances. Really very few. I think their XG against is only... There's only Arsenal City that are lower than Forrest and Forrest have had some tricky games. So they are going to be hard opponents for Villa to beat, I think, this weekend. Let's go to Forrest Fandom's Daniel Story. Daniel, you feel with positivity? It's nice to hear an objective view of that fixture. Yeah, Forrest have been routinely awful at the part. Adrian mentions the four-neil. There was also the league game last season, which is when they remember John Victor, the Brazilian goalkeeper, came steaming out of his goal to allow Villa to score and then went down with what looked like a fake knee injury. We haven't seen him since. He's still on the books of the club. So, yeah, there is some psychological damage to work my way through before Saturday afternoon. Well, we'll see how that goes Sunday afternoon. At 4.30, it's the big one, Man United against Man City. City who've had three wins from three in the league had a big win midweek in the Champions League as well, but they don't have a good record in Manchester Derby's. Only one win in the last four. This was actually Michael Carrick's first game in charge of United, and he won that one, or Man United won that one. So, what do you think? Also, is it a bit weird that with such a big game coming up on Sunday, a man city having played on Tuesday night, a Man United play on Thursday night in the Champions League? How's that come about? I think it's an obscure UEFA ruling where if you only played 40 games than the previous season, who's been terrible, then it can happen. Right. Okay. That makes sense. That's good of them. The last two trips there, City. They're not. But you'd probably bank on them scoring in this game, looking at United's defending. Obviously, they've played Hull, they've played Ipswich and they've played Everton. They could end up being the three lowest scorers in the Premier League this season, or close to. Right. And they've conceded two goals to each of those of them. So City will pose a lot more threat. So I'd go in a fancy city here. Again, coming up with four. Well, I think, Bernie, on Sunday, it'll be Duncan. Of all fixtures in the Premier League, this one leans into narrative more than any other. So it kind of always produces a result that kind of the narrative of our league needs. So obviously, Carrick in this game last season came in, everyone's like, United Terrible under Hammerham, when's the game? Right. And throughout the basically since City became wealthy, it's kind of followed those patterns, really. So now, with Pep having done one, what's the narrative? Well, I think the narrative at the moment would be, everyone thought City were going to be bad under Mariska, or less effective. They're actually going to go and call it a long winning run at the start. And Carrick, obviously, everyone thought, well, he's got the job now, everything's going to be fine. As the agent said, they've not been super impressive. So I think it does. See, the narrative gods are leading me to think it's going to be a semi-comfortable city then. There you go. Daniel, you can write your piece early about this game for Monday's fi eye. Yeah, I'm torn. I still believe in the weird Michael Carrick. Oh, look, Manchester United had beaten a big club because everyone's decided to turn up for a big game narrative that has been basically going on under managers. You think probably shouldn't be Manchester United manager for about half a decade now. Don't really see any reason for that to not continue. 430 on Sunday, we find out. It also, as mentioned, will be going the night before. What are the odds that City will have a chance to put a bit of space between themselves and the gunners? IE, do you think Arsenal are going to come away with the win, Daniel? Yeah, I do. Yeah, I agree with Adrian. They just don't look like they're scared of anything at the moment. I suppose we're slightly yet to see some real adversity away from home recently, but they just looked completely in control against Chelsea, even having trailed and just put their foot down. So yeah, I don't see any reason to be scared. The direct football that Adrian mentioned in his last season, I think is the one way still to potentially get at Arsenal. If you've got a striker who can win headers and win knock downs and get players to run through on them and kind of over, I don't know, kind of swamp them a little bit. It's how Newcastle have done it. Or did it under any how or a couple of times? But yeah, I think they'll probably just win. How will we be looking to extend their remarkable run? I'm not having conceded it a go all. Lost the game so far this season. They are going to be taking on the team. One place below them in the top four remarkable sentence to be uttering. Chelsea, Chelsea, who on Wednesday night continued their uniquely entertaining start to this season when they faced leads, six, three leads go two goals up. Well, they're a goal up. So Javier Lanzo makes four changes at half time and Chelsea promptly go two goals down and then score six goals in 41 minutes. It was nice, it was brilliant. It was just, it was bold, wasn't it? Again, from Javier Lanzo, we saw bold tactics at Arsenal with leaving the four or five up from corners. He's not afraid to make these sort of unusual out of the box that ideas, is he? But yeah, putting Rodgers and Palmer on was obviously the big game changer. And I did enjoy the interview after just see it where Col Parmer got awarded the Man of the Match. But they were both interviewed together and Rodgers just wasn't having it. I think he was like, what have you got, Man of the Match? He's got a hat and trick of a cyst. He claimed in this video, I got four a cyst, and he scored a pen. That's outrageous. He didn't want to give him the player of the match award. But I think he's really clever actually in terms of the signing as well. Obviously, they both work amazingly well in that system, don't they? The Palmer as a right number 10, Rodgers as a left number 10. If they could pick one position, they could play on the pitch, it would be that. But they also mate. And I don't think enough managers sign mates. Right. You know, they can work together that know each other. You know, know each other from the international teams, for example, I think Chelsea might hit on something. That's good. What are the mates are there in football? Well, I don't know who's mates with who, but they are, aren't they? Yeah, there's some good buddies, I'm sure. Who was the best mate you played for them? Who's the best mate? Well, I played for my best mate or my best mate. Yeah, he's one of the best mates. I don't like to classify it, but yeah, Arsenal and Nikki Russell is a goalie. And we had this thing where he didn't even had a need to look at me. I knew he was going to hit a long diagonal to me on the left wing for me to sort of try and flick onto to my mate. And yeah, it's little things like that. I don't know. If you're a left winger and you're great mates with a left back, Nathan Jones at South End, I was really good pals with him when we played there on the S6 Riviera. And we combined beautifully. It was just one of those things. I think a bit of chemistry. It kind of works, right? Nathan Jones was obviously in the news this week for another animal related incident. Oh, yeah. He's Charlton Jr. and I was a QPR. And they had to put apparently a perfectly good goal chalked out. And Jones was complaining about the lines and looking down at him and said, the lines and looked like I'd just voiled his cat. It's a good phrase. Yeah, not a lot of interest in me. Who was it who voiled a cat? Yeah, it was Kurt Zuma who was rightfully punished for such act. How can you voiled a cat? Yeah. Well, I was voiling half a dog. Half a leaf, half a folly. Don't call it. I mean, we're laughing, but that's terrible. Yeah, it should be the body cat. But that was an animal related incident only in the broadest ascents he's done. Well, in the sense that he mentioned an animal, yeah. He did do. Yeah, true. Anyway, so Chelsea's remarkable and very matey front four, three, one, we're going to call them three. I'm going to be the opponents for a whole team who haven't conceded a goal so far this season. Can the Tigers continue this remarkable record? Do you think? No, I don't. I think that Chelsea will be irrepressible. This has got classic three, one, written all over it. I reckon I can't work out Chelsea at all. They've conceded nine goals so far, which is ludicrous. I just, yeah, I don't think this whole fun will last so long. What interests me about hull is not them not conceding. It's how they're going to score the goals when they do start conceding because Oli McBurney has been brilliant so far this season. So it's like off the ball work, but they just haven't really got a striker, I'm convinced by. So it's all good at the moment, but three, one, Chelsea. You mentioned McBurney, and he's got by far the most high intensity pressures this season. High intensity pressures. Because the way I love to judge a man, all one in a game. And so it was as efficacy of pressing. Yeah, like how close you get in, how much you rush your... Running around more like a dog than a cat, but in the days. Right. But I do think that's kind of indicative of the whole start. They're doing really well. They're racking up some points, the early doors. They are clearly going to beat Derby's record that safe. But they kind of need to make the most of this while they can. Because we saw the first time they got this, the Premier League, they started really well, asked them when it spurs and just about how I'm on my cast day. So I'm not saying they can't do that again, but they do need to make, literally make, hey, while the sun is still shining. Yeah, or play football match. This is what the sun is shining, yeah. They work very hard, don't they? Regan Slater in midfield is just charging around. Regan Slater is everywhere. I think the only player that's run further is Pascal Gross, which is really impressive. Because Pascal Gross is, isn't he mid there? He's not, yeah, which is really impressive. So yeah, look, let's see. I mean, Chelsea won't get many opportunities to counter on Hall, will they? I mean, because that's what Chelsea really good at. That's not really going to happen too often in this game. Well, we'll find out, as you say, Saturday, three o'clock that game, the tea time game on Saturday, I find interesting as Spurs take on Everton, who are the last team that Spurs managed to score a goal against in the Premier League. Daniel, what's your take on this? It's really fascinating, because Everton have been kind of labored as this crisis club over the last week or so. And actually, I think they'll be absolutely fine. I think we said that on Monday that maybe that's been slightly overblown and that David Moise probably quite likes to see himself as backs against the wall siege mentality. And Spurs are the opposite in that it should be everybody panicking and losing their minds. But does Erby is saying, no, no, it'll be fine. We've got this, we've got this, we've got this. They have to have got this this weekend. If they don't be Everton, then inevitably, there has to be some panic because they've played some teams in great states of flux, so they've played Newcastle, who are in flux and loss. They've played Forest, who have got a new manager and fairly lucky to draw. They've got Everton who are in this crisis. So if you don't win these games, then people start asking where you will win with games. I just want to see more from that midfield. I want to see more from a midfield that costs 300 million pounds. I want to see some, you know, organizations and inventions and sense that people know what they're doing and I've not seen any of that yet. Okay, although a lot of people say that the performances have been improving, even if the results haven't come yet, in news that we predicted last Sunday news, a kind of muddrick, he's out in jail. We had talked about the likely impact of returning after such a lengthy suspension and he's suffered in injury. Not sure what the entity of it is, but he's going to be out six to eight weeks. Yeah, ankle. Ankle injury. Yeah, only has two ankles. I like a cat or dog that has four, but just Daniel's point on spurs. Their next fix is after this game, I live a pull away villa at home and man United away. So I'm not saying this is must win, but it pretty much is must win. Yeah, and I said at the weekend that it wouldn't be a calamity season for spurs and I don't think it will be. But I do think that... As an astronaut fan. Yeah, yeah, like I think they're going to be good. I think they'll be fine. Sorry? Surgeon ends at the top. Definitely, yeah. They've got too many good players, but Decerby's being a bit odd, like in terms of he's made a lot of changes, doesn't he? I think he made more changes than anyone else. Archie Gray is a case in point. He kind of didn't build the team around it, but he had a great season in a poor campaign for Tottenham last year. He made him captain against Brentford. There was a lot of talk about that. What happened to him at the weekend, Archie Gray? On new sub. It's quite the fall, isn't it? In a space of like a few days. How's that going to sit with Archie Gray? How's that going to sit with some of the teammates? It just feels a little bit erratic from Decerby, so I think he needs to calm down a little bit as well. That's the villain on him. Forrest takes place at 3 o'clock on Saturday. You mentioned that, Agent Already Liverpool at the same time taking on Fulham. Yeah, they look wildly open. You'd imagine Liverpool's... If Barclay is recovered from his cramp in midweek, then he should feast. I mean, at least get some shots off against Fulham. I'll blow her and he lost one game as a Liverpool player at Amfield. Is that right? OK. What is this about Fulham players, Alex Awobi and Emile Smith-Roe, removing Fulham-related posts from their Instagram, Daniel? Yeah, I mean, it sounds incredibly petty, because it is incredibly petty. There's also Kevin, who posts on Instagram the kind of say nothing, see nothing here, nothing. It was a sort of sketched a version of the emojis, which I quite liked. Clearly all isn't well. They are players who are on the outside at the moment. Awobi was taken off to sort of ironic cheers from Fulham supporters last weekend, which feels pretty harsh, given he's been their best player for two years. But, yeah, clearly all isn't right. And this was a theme of Arbelow's time at Rome with Jude. And I think we all went, huh, Rome with Jude players all behaving silly and kicking off. And yeah, maybe the same is happening at Fulham, but once there's never twice as always, I'd say. And so if that is becoming a pattern of Arbelow, man management, then he's going to have to sort it really quickly, because he absolutely needs Bayon with how he's playing. It's almost like a version of Russell Martin football with the defence where you're asking players to take so many risks and to risk looking silly for the greater good. But if you don't have Bayon on it, it can fall apart quite quickly, I think. One other thing that's been reported, some Fulham fan claiming sort of Kenny Tete, leaving on a line bike after the game last week and not being, which is A is absolute class. It should be encouraged and be seven to warm down. Yeah. But also he wasn't very complimentary about the current regime, but it did remind me this week's obviously Adelter Rapford. I was going to say it on the bus. A man who left Crayon Courage on the bus. On the bus. Many ways to leave Crayon Courage, boats even. Almost as many as there are, your lover famously. Crystal Palace take on a hip switch, which is the two worst offences in the Premier League going head to head. Also, a Clasher former league earn managers, because you've got to PSG and Gary O'Neal. You held PSG to warm on draw when they met, when they were in charge of Lawns and Strasbourg last season. Ha. The game isn't it for them, both. Is it? Is it? They'll look at it. They could do the three here. Producer Charlie wants to know, Duncan. So there's a stat that says, Crystal Palace, the Crystal Palace is a Nanke Lyle, leads the Premier League for both tackles with 17, and true tackles with 24. So Producer Charlie wants to know, what's a true tackle? And I want to know, how can you have more true tackles than tackles? This is good. Because a true tackle is a composite thing that brings in, now I really should look this up beforehand, but it brings in other factors, so challenges lost, fouls as well. But those aren't yet up to two true tackles. Yeah, because you can make a tackle that's a really good tackle, but obviously it gets penalised. Oh, I see. So tackles that are penalised would not be true tackles. They wouldn't be counted as a tackle in the raw data. So it's a more sort of a holistic way of looking at the players who are particularly good at sort of breaking up play and stopping our opponents. I see. He's doing well. Happy, all good there. A Bournemouth rubber against Brentford, Mocka Rose, still searching. Rose is still searching for him. His first winner's cherries, boss, Adrian, looks like you want to see him. No, they're two draw specialists, aren't they? No one's drawing more than these two, and I can see you can absolutely see a draw between Bournemouth and Brentford. Just a quick one on Brentford, two of their better players, I would say, got hooked at half time in the last game. Michael Coyode, who had such a good season, the long throw specialist hooked because Angulo was destroying him. And Sengara, who we've waxed lyrical about, is a really good player. He got taken off at half time as well. What does he do? Does he bring them back in or not? And I think they're both too good to leave out personally. So a little bit of an awkward decision, maybe for Keith Andrews ahead of kickoff. Bournemouth have never beaten Brentford in eight previous Premier League meetings. Whoah, commentary, still pointless, up against Brighton. These two sides haven't faced each other since April of 1983. What was number one, Adrian? I don't know. Daniel? What was number one? I don't know. I'm not saying in the streets, but for no reason. Oh, it wasn't. Oh, close. It wasn't, but it was close, because David Bowie was involved with a track called Let's Dance. Let's Dance by David Bowie. Put on your shooting boots and dance all over your opponents. Yeah, that's the plan. That's your pretty much team talk, Frank. Well, both these teams have been in league too. Not, I mean, you're not that long ago. Yeah. So, you know, they can celebrate together, how far they've come. Put on your whatever shoes you want and beat Sky Blues. Personally, I'm interested this weekend in the vibes of the Premier League, because obviously, we don't normally have Premier League games this time of year. Normally, we're into the international break. Right. Yeah. If someone wants to become the top Premier League scorer on September the 12th or 13th, here's your chance. Right. Okay, that extended international break coming up the round after this one. Leads against Newcastle is on Monday. That's at Ellen Road, of course. Magpies have faced the most shots in the Premier League this season, averaging 28 games. We'll see if that continues on. On Monday before that, though, Sunday night, we will be getting together our usual gaff for our live roundup of the Premier League weekend thus far. Daniel, you're not with us this weekend. Where are you going to be? Yeah, I'm otherwise engaged on Sunday evening. I am at Hillsborough on Saturday afternoon, for Sheffield Wednesday versus Whigam, and then I'm at Leads Newcastle on Monday evening. Excellent. We'll have a super weekend. Look forward to hearing about your exploits in the eye. Adrian and Duncan are super weekend to you both as well. I'm not sure if you're joining us on Sunday. I could not know. I'm not, no. I'll be heading to late an orient on Saturday. Are you windless, Whigam, doom, season? With your new manager? Into a manager. Oh, who's that then? Tom Hounsel. Okay. He's 31, so. That's very young. Good luck to you. And Adrian? Yeah, busy weekend as always. I'll be working on the Sunderland Arsenal game. So, hopefully the gooners can carry on their good work. That's what we're all praying. Are you? Mm-hmm. Good. Excellent. We're back as a Sunday. Thank you so much for joining us for now. From all of us here, it's goodbye.
