1. Executive Overview: Core Theses & Key Revelations
The post-World Cup autopsy of any national team program often oscillates between reactionary despair and unwarranted optimism. However, Episode #712 of the Scuffed podcast ("New Hopes: a young prospect look-ahead for the 2030 cycle") marks a significant inflection point in the American soccer media landscape. Hosted by Vince and Sanjay, featuring long-time developmental analyst Marcus Cherez, the episode shifts the analytical framing of the United States Men's National Team (USMNT) away from temporary tactical adjustments and toward cold, structural realities. With the 2026 home tournament fading into historical context, the discussion establishes a rigorous forecasting model for the 2030 World Cup cycle, built around an uncompromising premise: the United States has hit an undeniable talent ceiling that cannot be engineered around through tactical coaching alone.
The central thesis articulated across the broadcast is that the USMNT’s historical ceiling—consistently stalling out in the Round of 16 against tier-one international opposition—is not merely a product of manager selection or game-state luck. Rather, it is the direct consequence of three systemic deficiencies. First, the program has failed to produce a true global S-tier superstar capable of altering high-leverage knockout games through individual brilliant intervention. Second, the roster suffers from severe structural vulnerabilities at core spine positions—specifically center-back and goalkeeper—where the baseline floor has dangerously regressed compared to historical American standards. Third, squad construction compromises have forced tactical improvisation at the international level, exemplified by deploying Eredivisie right-backs as starting wingers against Pot 1 nations like Belgium.
To quantify these challenges, the panel introduced the "2030 Punch List," an analytical framework inspired by Spain’s tournament-winning squad architecture. Spain’s success relied on a roster of 20 to 22 trusted, elite-level players operating under a unified tactical blueprint. By contrast, the USMNT entered recent major tournaments relying on a fragile 12-to-13-player "trust bubble." The 2030 Punch List serves as a binary diagnostic checklist. As Sanjay noted during the recording, unless the U.S. pipeline significantly upgrades at least two of its primary deficiency zones before 2030, another early knockout-stage exit remains the statistical expectation.
| Analytical Dimension |
Current USMNT Baseline |
2030 Target Requirement |
Primary Structural Bottleneck |
| Individual Ceiling |
Upper-middle class European starters (B-tier) |
At least one genuine S-tier / World-Class game-changer |
Lack of high-volume elite 1v1 creators produced in domestic academies |
| Roster Floor (CB / GK) |
Aging veterans (Reem) & unproven shot-stoppers |
Top-5 league starters with elite PSxG & progressive passing |
Stagnant goalkeeper development post-Tim Howard; slow central defender transition |
| Attacking Width |
Out-of-position full-backs (Dest at wing) |
Natural vertical 1v1 isolation wingers with high xT output |
Academy preference for interior half-space midfielders over true wide players |
| Squad Depth |
Fragile 12-13 player trust bubble |
20+ high-level European starters (Spain template) |
Drop-off in technical security and tactical adaptability beyond core starting XI |
2. Context & Background: The Landscape Leading to This Conversation
Understanding the weight of Episode #712 requires examining the broader historical arc of American men's soccer talent development over the past decade. Following the failure to qualify for the 2018 World Cup in Russia, U.S. Soccer embarked on what was branded as a golden age of youth talent. Domestic academies, led by Major League Soccer’s MLS NEXT platform, alongside accelerated pathways to European clubs, yielded a wave of talent into Europe's top five leagues. Players like Christian Pulisic, Weston McKennie, Tyler Adams, and Sergiño Dest were hailed as the vanguard of a modern, technically proficient American footballing identity.
However, as the program completed its subsequent tournament cycles, empirical reality began to collide with narrative expectation. While the "Golden Generation" successfully raised the team's absolute talent floor above the MLS-dominated era of the early 2010s, it rapidly encountered a rigid structural ceiling. In competitive fixtures against top-10 FIFA ranked nations—most notably in knockout-stage eliminations—the USMNT repeatedly demonstrated an inability to sustain possession under elite press, generate high-quality expected goals (xG) without space in transition, or defend high-leverage set pieces and central box entries.
This reality was laid bare in the knockout defeat to Belgium. When subjected to intense tactical pressing in the opening 20 minutes, the U.S. build-up phase collapsed into defensive containment. The team lacked a press-resistant central midfielder or an isolation winger capable of breaking down a set defense. The sole moment of temporary reprieve came from an isolated set-piece moment—Malik Tillman’s long-range free kick effort—which was promptly erased when the team conceded shortly thereafter. The match highlighted that having 11 competent players scattered across upper-middle-tier European clubs is insufficient to compete with elite footballing powers who possess multiple game-changing talents.
It is within this analytical environment that Scuffed has carved out its reputation as the preeminent analytical media outlet for U.S. national team discourse. Far from the superficial hot-take ecosystem of mainstream sports television, Scuffed built its authority through granular tracking of youth prospects, meticulous tactical breakdown of youth national team matches, and an unyielding commitment to objective scouting principles. When Marcus Cherez, Sanjay, and Vince convened for Episode #712, their assessment was not an emotional overreaction to a single loss, but the synthesized conclusion of thousands of scouting hours tracking the global American player pool.
3. Deep-Dive Thematic Breakdown
3.1 The Global Superstar Deficit: Ceiling vs. Floor Dynamics
The core thesis championed by Marcus Cherez in Episode #712 centers on the critical distinction between roster depth and elite individual ceiling. In contemporary international football, deep tournament runs by mid-tier nations—such as Croatia behind Luka Modrić or Morocco behind Achraf Hakimi and Hakim Ziyech—almost universally depend on the presence of world-class individual talent. A single elite player alters opposition tactical preparation, demands double-coverage, alters field tilt, and provides a psychological safety valve during periods of sustained defensive pressure.
Cherez pulled no punches in evaluating the current USMNT pool, stating unequivocally that the U.S. has yet to develop a genuine global superstar. While players like Christian Pulisic have achieved high-level success at European clubs including Chelsea and AC Milan, Pulisic’s profile remains that of an exceptional secondary or tertiary attacker at the absolute summit of European football, rather than a top-ten player in world soccer who dictates the flow of match play independently. As Cherez observed:
"We have still not developed a true global superstar. I think that is the number one thing we're missing right now. Never mind depth. We need one of our guys to become, I don't love the term world class, but that is more or less what we need."
The tactical fallout of this superstar deficit manifests vividly during high-pressure knockout environments. When an opponent's press pinned the U.S. into its own defensive third during the opening exchanges against Belgium, there was no press-resistant creator capable of receiving the ball in tight spaces, beating a defender off the dribble, and forcing the opposition to drop their defensive line. In basketball terminology, the USMNT lacked a primary playmaker who could halt an opponent's scoring momentum. The absence of an S-tier game-changer leaves the U.S. entirely dependent on flawless collective execution—a low-probability requirement against superior international rosters.
3.2 Defensive Floor-Raising: The Center-Back & Goalkeeper Vacuum
While the absence of an attacking superstar defines the USMNT’s ceiling, the collapse of its traditional defensive floor threatens its baseline stability. Historically, if American soccer possessed a distinct competitive advantage, it was in net and across the central defense. For decades, the program relied on world-class shot-stopping and aerial dominance from premier league goalkeepers like Kasey Keller, Brad Friedel, and Tim Howard, paired with physically dominant, assertive center-backs like Carlos Bocanegra and Oguchi Onyewu.
In Episode #712, the panel identified an alarming reversal of this historical pattern. As Tim Reem approached the end of his international career, his vulnerability against elite pace and high-line transition attacks became a glaring tactical liability. More concerning, however, is the lack of obvious successor candidates demonstrating elite physical and technical metrics in top-five European leagues. The center-back pool presents a stark dilemma: defenders who possess press-resistant passing metrics often lack recovery speed and aerial duel efficiency, while physically dominant central defenders frequently struggle with progressive pass selection under pressure.
The goalkeeping situation represents an even more severe structural decline. Modern international football demands goalkeepers who excel not only as shot-stoppers (evaluated via Post-Shot Expected Goals minus Goals Allowed, or PSxG+/-), but also as active sweepers and auxiliary build-up passers. The current American pool lacks a single clear starter establishing himself as a top-tier performer in a Big Five European league. Cherez captured this anxiety concisely:
"Center back and goalkeeper are areas where we need to raise the floor of the starting 11 by the next cycle. And I don't think it's abundantly clear who that will be."
Without raising the floor at these two positions, any tactical framework implemented by the coaching staff remains fragile. A team that cannot reliably build out from the back against an aggressive press, or that concedes low-probability goals due to subpar shot-stopping, forces its midfield and attack into defensive cover duty, crippling the team's overall field tilt and attacking transition output.
3.3 Positional Misallocation & Winger Scarcity: The Right-Back Emergency
One of the most tactical revelations of Episode #712 was the panel’s analysis of positional distortion within squad selection. International football requires specialized profiles: natural width-providers who can isolate opposing full-backs in 1v1 scenarios, create high-volume expected threat (xT), and stretch defensive block alignments horizontally. Yet, in high-stakes fixtures against top-tier opponents, the USMNT was forced to start Sergiño Dest—a natural right-back playing in the Eredivisie—at nominal wing.
While Dest possesses exceptional dribbling ability and technical flair for a full-back, deploying him as a primary winger against a Pot 1 international opponent exposes a systemic flaw in roster construction. It represents a tactical compromise born out of necessity rather than design. As Cherez noted during the discussion:
"We need a dynamic winger. At the end of the day, against a pot one team, we started a natural right back at wing. And I think that is the truth of the matter."
This positional compromise stems from a structural gap in domestic talent production. American academies have produced an abundance of hybrid interior midfielders and central engine-room operators (such as Yunus Musah, Weston McKennie, and Tyler Adams), but have struggled to manufacture elite, touchline-width isolation wingers. When a team lacks natural wingers who can threaten the space behind an opposing full-back, the attack becomes congested in the central half-spaces. Opposing defenses can compress their defensive block, effectively neutralizing interior creators like Malik Tillman or Giovanni Reyna. Resolving this winger drought before 2030 is mandatory if the U.S. hopes to unlock verticality in transition.
3.4 The 2030 Punch List: Sanjay’s Binary Evaluation Matrix
To move the prospect conversation from subjective opinion to structured forecasting, the panel evaluated Marcus Cherez's "2030 Punch List." Grounded in the tactical standards set by top-tier international programs like Spain, the list acts as a diagnostic checklist that the USMNT pool must satisfy over the next four-year cycle.
Co-host Sanjay articulated the cold mathematical reality of this checklist. In his view, checking off these positional upgrades is not a luxurious preference for squad depth, but a strict prerequisite for international relevance. The margin between a Round of 16 exit and a historic Quarterfinal or Semifinal run comes down to whether a team can field 11 high-caliber starters without obvious tactical weaknesses for opponents to target. Sanjay emphasized this risk profile during the broadcast:
"We don't check this box, don't expect this. We need to upgrade significantly, probably two of these spots for 2030, or if that doesn't happen, I'm going to have some concerns."
The panel agreed that upgrading at least two of the three problem areas—Center-Back, Goalkeeper, or Isolation Winger—represents the minimum threshold for progress. If the U.S. enters 2030 with the same positional gaps that plagued its previous cycle, structural failure against top-10 FIFA nations will reoccur. Sanjay’s binary framework provides an objective metric against which domestic development can be measured over the coming years.
3.5 Grassroots Culture, Hype Machinery, and the Cavan Sullivan Phenomenon
No discussion of future prospect cycles on Scuffed would be complete without addressing the domestic talent pipeline and the surrounding hype engine. A primary case study in Episode #712 was the Philadelphia Union’s prodigy Cavan Sullivan. The dialogue underscored the dual nature of American soccer coverage: the frantic search for a savior vs. the sobering timeline of adolescent player development.
The podcast touched upon the cultural tendency to label top domestic prospects with extravagant titles—referencing the playful yet revealing moniker of the "Baby LeBron of Soccer." While Sullivan’s technical foundation, vision, and early professional debut with the Philadelphia Union demonstrate undeniable high-end potential, Vince, Sanjay, and Cherez urged analytical restraint. Hyper-focusing on early-teen phenoms can obscure the reality that developmental pathways are rarely linear. Transference from youth dominance to elite European performance requires physical adaptation, tactical maturation, and ideal club environment choices.
In parallel with prospect scouting, Vince offered an evocative reflection on the evolving fan culture supporting the national team, recounting an organic post-match celebration in the concourses of Santa Clara Stadium following a knockout victory:
"At first, it was just like 10 people chanting. Then it started growing—40, 50, and I'm going to say a solid 500 people in the concourse... when they're done right and performed by a group of rabid fans that have just experienced a knockout win, man, it was a great time."
This contrast between the organic passion of the fan base and the cold analytical requirements of international success highlights the current state of American soccer. The supporter culture has matured into a passionate movement, yet the technical output on the pitch remains constrained by systemic developmental bottlenecks. Cherez noted that while collective fan energy can temporarily mask structural flaws on matchday, it cannot substitute for elite tactical execution when facing elite international opposition.
4. Speaker Perspectives & Analytical Contrast
The enduring strength of the Scuffed podcast lies in the distinct analytical chemistry among its core voices. Episode #712 provided a masterclass in complementary perspectives, with each participant approaching the 2030 prospective landscape through a unique lens.
Marcus Cherez operated as the pragmatic talent scout and structural realist. Cherez’s analysis is rooted in individual player profiling, positional traits, and competitive ceiling. He resists nationalistic sentiment, openly identifying uncomfortable truths—such as the reality of starting an Eredivisie full-back at wing or acknowledging that the U.S. lacks a world-class superstar. His contributions established the diagnostic framework for the episode, prioritizing elite individual quality over raw squad depth.
Sanjay provided the quantitative risk modeling and system auditing perspective. Sanjay excels at converting scouting observations into macro-level probability assessments. His focus centered on the binary consequences of the 2030 Punch List. By establishing strict baseline criteria—demanding upgrades in at least two critical positions—Sanjay framed player development not as a vague continuum, but as a high-stakes countdown toward competitive viability.
Vince served as the narrative synthesizer, cultural anchor, and fan experience historian. Vince bridged the gap between granular prospect metrics and broader emotional context. His account of the Santa Clara concourse celebration grounded the technical discourse in the lived reality of American soccer fans. Vince ensured the conversation remained accessible while holding the team accountable to its historical ambitions.
| Speaker |
Primary Analytical Lens |
Core Philosophical Stance |
Key Strategic Priority for 2030 |
| Marcus Cherez |
Individual Scouting & Positional Profiling |
Ceiling-Driven: Elite individual talent supersedes tactical depth. |
Develop a true S-tier superstar; fix CB/GK floor; acquire natural 1v1 wingers. |
| Sanjay |
Risk Modeling & Structural System Audit |
Probability-Driven: Failure to fix 2+ weakness zones guarantees early exit. |
Rigorous execution of the 2030 Punch List thresholds. |
| Vince |
Cultural Synthesis & Fan-Oriented Macro View |
Experience-Driven: Technical growth must align with supporter passion. |
Translate domestic fan energy into sustained high-level tournament expectations. |
5. Strategic & Industry Implications
The insights articulated in Scuffed Episode #712 extend beyond podcast commentary; they carry profound implications for the broader American soccer ecosystem, from U.S. Soccer federation policy to Major League Soccer club strategy and European scouting networks.
First, U.S. Soccer’s coaching education and academy guidelines must address the positional imbalances identified by the panel. Domestic youth development has successfully produced box-to-box central midfielders and energetic full-backs, but it has under-indexed on two specialized profiles: central defenders comfortable orchestrating build-up play under high-press conditions, and touchline-width isolation dribblers. MLS NEXT academies must recalibrate their tactical instruction to cultivate individual 1v1 flair and spatial intelligence rather than prioritizing physical dominance and system compliance at junior levels.
Second, the European transfer pathway requires strategic refinement. The practice of young American players taking intermediate steps in leagues like the Dutch Eredivisie, Belgian Pro League, or Austrian Bundesliga has provided valuable first-team minutes. However, as Marcus Cherez highlighted, relying on starters from secondary European leagues in key attacking positions against Pot 1 nations creates an insurmountable quality gap. For the USMNT to elevate its ceiling, a higher proportion of its core starting XI must establish themselves as regular starters in UEFA Champions League knockout-stage contenders within the Big Five European leagues.
Finally, the commercial and institutional future of American soccer is tied to the superstar question. As Major League Soccer continues to invest in infrastructure and international media rights, the emergence of a home-grown American global icon—a player capable of featuring on global award shortlists—remains the ultimate multiplier for domestic interest. Without such an icon, the sport in America risks remaining a secondary narrative on the global stage, characterized by solid mid-tier competitiveness but lacking historic tournament breakthroughs.
6. Looking Ahead: Unresolved Questions & Next Milestones
As the U.S. Men's National Team progresses toward the 2030 World Cup cycle, several technical metrics will determine whether the concerns raised in Episode #712 are resolved or amplified. Analysts, scouts, and supporters must track specific benchmarks over the coming years:
- The Center-Back Emergence Rate: Will a young central defender break into a top-five European league club and log over 2,000 first-team minutes while maintaining an aerial duel win rate above 65% and elite progressive passing numbers?
- Goalkeeping Stabilization: Can any American goalkeeper secure a starting job in a Big Five European league and generate a positive PSxG+/- differential over a full domestic season?
- Natural Winger Production: Will domestic academies or youth national teams produce genuine 1v1 isolation wingers capable of generating high expected threat (xT) without relying on out-of-position full-backs?
- The Cavan Sullivan Horizon: How effectively will top prospects like Cavan Sullivan transition from youth dominance to professional first-team consistency, and will their developmental choices avoid the premature hype traps of previous generations?
- Spain-Style Roster Depth Expansion: Can the USMNT expand its high-trust player pool from 12-13 players to 18-22 reliable European-based contributors before entering major international tournaments?
Episode #712 of Scuffed serves as a definitive diagnostic document for American soccer at a crossroads. By dismantling comfortable narratives and demanding clear structural upgrades, Marcus Cherez, Sanjay, and Vince provided a roadmap for evaluating the 2030 cycle. Whether U.S. Soccer can meet these rigorous standards remains the central question facing the sport in North America over the next decade.
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Welcome to the Scuff Podcast. We talk about U.S. soccer. Welcome to the Scuff Podcast. It's Vince here with Sanjay. And we're getting back to our roots today. We're joined by a special guest. Getting back to it, you know what, a full reset. Old scuff days getting back to prospects, baby. So who better to have the Mr. Marcus Cherez. Long time from the other podcast coming back on once again to talk. To talk use. Marcus, how you doing, bro? I'm good. Good to see you guys. I was fortunate to see both of you guys during the World Cup cycle. So happy to be back with you. You know, that's the beautiful thing about all those games being on the West Coast. Is that I got to get out there. We got to show love to our West Coast contingent. You know, that seems to be pretty sizable. You know, you got to get out of Seattle. I met the last second decision to get out to San Fran. Me and Marcus had a great time in the tailgate. And after the match, I think my defining moment of the World Cup. The thing I'm going to think about the most is the con course. I haven't talked about this on the pilot. I'm going to talk about the con course at Santa Clara Stadium. After the match, just an organic, like chant circle broke out. You know, an A.O. came through. They had the, they had the drums and started beating a little bit. And I was here when it first, when it very first started, because I was on the con course, like as the match concluded. And I saw it form it organically. At first, it was just like 10 people. Chan. Then it started growing 40 50. And it, I'm going to say a solid 500 people in the con course. I have video of it on the scuffed Instagram. You might have seen it if you're, if you follow it, USM and T stuff on Instagram, whatever. But huge chant circle just formed with people everywhere. People climbing on poles. People that has walked up on the steps to like get to the upper parts of the stadium. To see what was going on to be a part of it. It was a great time. Now, look, the American Outlaw Chants get a lot of criticism. But when they're done right and they're performed, you know, by a group of rabid fans that I've just experienced a knockout win. Man, it's a, it was a great time. It was a great time. And it was shared by me and Marcus, man. No, it's something I'll never forget. It was magical. Yeah. But it, a passionate chant can, can kind of color over the, maybe the lack of creativity in the song. So if you're, if you're belting and everybody's in it, 100%, you kind of forget about, about the rest of it. So that's what it felt like. It was, it was pretty cool. That's right. That's what all the chants are in foreign languages too. Or with British accent, they're not always the most creative thing. But it's the energy, right? It's the energy, for sure. It's, it's the energy for, just chanting by itself, if you want to, can be interpreted as cringe. If you want to be that person on the outside looking at them, like, ah, look at them, having fun, losing them, losing themselves to the moment. Anytime you got somebody losing themselves to the moment, where they're like really filling themselves, whether it's dancing or chanting or singing or whatever, you can, you can easily be on the outside and be like, ah, look at these, look at these lame people. But anyway, let's get, let's get to the youth. Um, the world cup is long gone. We are on to the future. On to 2030. Um, so, Sanjay, you've created a punch list for 2030 to see what we can check off. That was hard, actually. Oh, this is. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, before we start, I just want to say, uh, so, so we'll get to talking about this game soon, the Philly Rebel game. I was there and person was a great, beautiful summer evening for, for soccer. Um, I stayed with the legendary, Jonathan Tannenwald, Mr. Philadelphia, my, my good friend. Um, Mr Philly and the morning after the game, I, uh, the last kind of dream I had was LeBron James signing with the Sixers. I'm not making this up. I said this thing. What would I woke up? And that was, that was yesterday. That was yesterday I woke up having had that dream. And today, here we are. Um, but yeah, it was a great day in Philly. And, uh, said it, talk about not just their prospects, but a lot of prospects from Emily and beyond. So I mean, it makes a lot of sense. LeBron James now paired up with the baby LeBron James of soccer. You know, we might have to officially snatch that title from Christian, and then, um, attach it all our hosting dreams to young, uh, Kevin Sullivan. So anyway, Marcus, you created this, uh, punch list for 2030. This evening, we could check what we can check off in these four years. As far as what the national team needs going forward for us to feel good about what's going to happen in 2030. Can, can you list off these? Yeah, yeah. And it was, it was kind of inspired by, uh, the last pod you guys did after Spain won the World Cup. And you're talking, you guys are talking a little bit about depth. And, um, you know, how once again, we kind of went into the World Cup with like 12 guys at the, that the coach trusted. And, um, so I started to think about like, an ideal checklist that we would, we would ideally love to check off before the next World Cup. I think some of these things are unlikely. Some of these things are more likely. Um, but I thought it could help sort of, uh, shape the discussion today. And also, I think just shape how we look at the players that we hope to emerge over the next four years. Um, and kind of focus our attention a little bit. Um, so yeah, let me go through it really quick, because I, there's a lot of stuff in that podcast that got me thinking. I think the number one thing, um, which will likely not get checked off before the next World Cup. But it's something you guys talked about in all these teams that, any team that makes a run in the World Cup for the most part, has to have at least a superstar. And I think one of the things I, I felt like in the Belgian game was. When, in that first kind of like 15 minutes when we were in hell, a lot of times, teams that don't get off to the start that they want. And this is kind of true for, for a lot of sports, I think. You need someone to kind of. Remind you that it's okay. And usually that's a superstar that does something a little magical and just lets everybody breathe a little bit. And we were, we were looking around. So I'm going to do that and there was just, was nobody there. I think Malik's free kick was the, the closest thing. To do that. And, and then we gave up a goal and like one minute, and that kind of just completely washed that out. So, you know, the point here is like, we have still not. Developed a true global superstar. And I think. That is the number one thing we're missing right now. Never mind depth. We need one of our guys to become, you know, I don't love the term world class, but that. That's more or less. I think what we need. So. Roger, Roger, I wouldn't have been out of my game. Well, we'll, we'll see. All right. Number two, we had some, we had some clear weaknesses, right? In this, even in our starting 11. So we talk about. Yeah, we, we had like, well, 13 guys. Maybe that pot's trusted, but there were also just. Really clear weaknesses that really didn't come to light until that, that bells from games. So, I think most notably. Center back, right? Like, Reem had a tough time in that game, and we kind of knew that was going to come to a head at some point. And then goalkeeper. So a position that's historically been a strength for us, soccer has been a weakness now for. Really since since Tim Howard retired. Center back and goalkeeper are areas where we need to raise the floor of the starting 11 by the next cycle. And I don't think it's. Abundantly clear how, who that will be. I think there are, there are lottery tickets, but. Those were, I think, the two weaknesses. And then I would say, right, like, desk position. Another, we need a dynamic. Winger. And, like, does have some nice games, right? But at the end of the day, against the pot one team. We started a, air to busy right back at wing. And I think that, that, that's like the truth of the matter. And that, you know, that, again, was like a clear problem. We didn't have a guy. We didn't have a, we didn't have a dude on the wing that we can go to and just make things happen. So, so to me, those are the three kind of like, if everybody can maintain their level, and they're maybe guys that come and emerge and displace some of our core guys, and that's great. We always welcome that. But these were to me, the three weaknesses that need to be improved for the next World Cup. So we can talk about guys that maybe can do that. Yeah. No, those three positions. They're, they're, they're kind of limiting factors. Right. It's like, it's almost like. The same thing as the point I made last podcast with. Um, the depth piece, where it's like, we don't check this box. Like, don't, don't expect this. Um, we need to upgrade significantly, probably two of these spots. Yep. For 2030, or, and if that doesn't happen. Um. Yep. I'm going to have some concerns. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have it. Once again, trouble making it past around a 16 for sure, especially. These backline positions, right? Going up against. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 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