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Hello, welcome to the Gavin Jules Show. Look out today because he's at the Champions League draw in Monaco. So look who's here. Don't hurt yourself. Hello, mate. It's so good to see you. I like that. Hello, Bonbi. I thought you might like the colour, you know. We don't have the sun today in London, but it's only on the Bonbi shirts. Thank you so much, man. For coming down, there's a lot of things that we want to talk about. And there'll be a lot of transfers. There'll be a bit of Champions League qualifiers. There's a lot of really good stories in the Quickets. But we thought, as a men's segment, we would look at much the city and the summer that they had because it's been a really busy summer in the Premier League, especially in terms of transfers. Yeah. And nobody then more than city have really made that transfer busy in the ins and in the outs, the players that they let go, the players that they bore. So quickly, before I ask you, if you felt that I was needed, this kind of big overhaul and rebuilding of the squads, let's remind everyone that John Stones, Bernardo Silva, Nathan Ackay, Manuela Kenji, James Trafford, Nico Gonzales, Roger Tijani Rinders, Savio, Omar Mahmouj, and potentially Jagrelish. I've left the club for around 400 million euros, let's say. Yeah. And in return, Citibault Geronimo Rulli, Geronimo Anga, Matis de Torbe, who they've loaned out to Monaco, Ayu Bourdi, Elia Anderson, and Alan will be done and potentially ends off on this. So did you feel, did you expect a summer like that from city? I didn't expect so many outgones in truth. It doesn't really match up when you talk about the bodies that are coming in to how many's left. Yeah. There's a lot of bodies left. And I think what strikes me is they've lost a lot of good players, but characters. You know, the likes of John Stones, that's in Nathan Ackay, Roderie, obviously. I think guys that can manage that dressing room when Mereska probably wants to lean on them a little bit more. So you're seeing about 9 or 10 players leave, and only 405 coming in, that just worked to be done, obviously. Enzo Fernandez, one is a very interesting sign into me because some of his best work has done as a number 10. He's very stylish, I can't play tonight, so why do you imagine it's going to be the six unless it's double pivot, but if he plays as a 10, what does that do to Cherokee or Phil Foden? So he's going to have to play as an eight, but they definitely need him. So in terms of the overhaul, I saw a scenic coming, but I didn't expect that many. So it was the end of the Guadalai cycle, obviously, after 10 great years, a bit of an aging squad when you think of the edge of Bernardo over 30, Stone over 30, Roderie through 30. So in a way, you could say, okay, they wanted to go a bit younger. Yeah. Maybe they wanted to refresh the squad for Maresca, because Maresca was coming, whether within Maresca is there for the long term or not, you and I are not sure. I'm not sure. Me neither. Unless you know, he doesn't, we wish him, obviously, good luck for the season, but that needs only, despite losing leaders and characters, as you mentioned, to go a bit younger, that was also probably a need. I think so, mate. I think once you lose, and it's all a quality other effect, isn't it, the way he probably hung on to Rodry for another year in Bernardo, Silver. And then what do you do? You can't go and buy a Rodry. So you have to go down a different route, a different model. You can't really just flick the switch and buy a Bernardo Silver. The characters like John Stone's, you're going to lose in Nathanack in the dressing room, but they can be replaced whether you buy experience or youth. So why are you coming in, make sense at the same time when you argue with yourself up in the conversation, that's a young kid who's been bought in for a lot of money. I know he's got games behind him. He's got a little bit of experience, but he's still a teenager. And you've got to be the new Rodry. That is that hard. So if people are going to watch Bawadi think, and he's just going to step in and do what Rodry does, impossible in the short term, in the medium to long term. Of course, you can get there. So they're going to have to fix up and look pretty sharp early on, because they were terrible in the community shield. I come and take it on the form of going into the weekend. There was no spark about them. We're lucky to get the win. It probably looked like we're going to get beat or best case scenario, one, one draw. So they snooker out of the two one, which will give them a little bit of a spark going at the next game. But I just wonder what the direction of travel is on what this man city team is actually going to look like and how they're going to play and what the philosophy is going to be. Yeah. And certainly, as we said, we expect the Omar Mahmouds deal to supposed to happen between now and the end of the transfer. That's a funny one for me, because I've been saying for a long time when they sold Julian Alvarez, you'll leave an Irland Harland as your only number nine. Now with Marmouchko's and God forbid Harland ever gets injured, they are naked. So that you expect more incoming then. So they've already, if you add a potential Enzo financial transfer around 120 million, let's say, they pretty much have spent what they've earned with all those sales that we mentioned around 400 million euros. If you add up bloody Anderson, potentially Enzo and Alan, you already are 400. So do you need to sell Marmouch then for 50, 60 million? You're not just worth keeping it. Yeah. Just in case Harland has got the money. Yeah. Unless you go and sign somebody like Gakbo who can play as a backup nine. Yeah. So why don't I don't think he's a city or a Mariska player for places? It's a funny one because the market sort of suggesting that, you know, the elite players that man city want to buy, they're too much money. Yeah. No, they're killings of this world and the hurricanes of this money. There are 150 million quid. Unless you've done a deal for someone like Oli Watkins before he went Al Halal. Yeah. And ask him to be as a backup number nine. That's a difficult topic because he's obviously going there for the money. So unless, I mean, personally, if I was, if I was in Man City shoes and I'm looking to think and write, what's the market looking like to bring a backup striker in? Yeah. Don't sell Marmouch. I ask him to do one more year. Yeah. No, I agree. Yeah, I agree. I find the Marmouch deal a bit, not that he was amazing for them, but there's a good player there as a backup certainly can play some of the cup games to give at Harlan the Harlan some rest. It's similarly looking for another winger too on top of Harlan so the Brazilian who's coming from Palmetas who's really interesting because he almost defends as much as the attacks. He's that kind of hardworking. So I think that could fit well. Iliman India is a name that I think they like. Right player. As well as Gakbo. I'm surprised in India. It hasn't gone to a, I have a ton of that massive club, but back to the top six club. Another level. So this could happen, but again, this is 80 million pounds. That's a lot more than you've got some annual in Doku. Yeah, yeah. You know, if I live a pool and I'm here and that they're interested in Gakbo, so give us Doku then. Yeah. I mean, it's not an app. What I'm saying is, one backup to Doku and some annual who should be the two starters. But why should Liverpool fund Marmouch? Yeah, they should strengthen the rival. Why sell in Gakbo? I think they need the Gakbo money to do barcola, who we'll talk about in a bit. Right. But I think there's also those kind of moving, but we'll see Jigsaw's massive transfer window Jigsaw. Yeah. Right, mate. Let's, let's go into a bit more into this, because this is like a discussion that I think a lot of city fans will have, like us, the good discussion, isn't it? Exactly. Perfect. On before looking at if this quad is better than the last one, and it'd be hard, anyway, the last one won everything, and you know, they don't have it here, everything. But let's, if you, if you were Mariska, and you were getting the team ready for this weekend or like a weekend when everybody's thinking you've got all, all the, all the options, all the players are ready. We're a big game. Yeah, for a big game. Yeah. What, what would be your starting now? Where would you think about for starting now? I'm, I'm looking at now, and I'm thinking obviously done a rumour and goal. It's Nunez or Kusanoff at right back. So you've got two options there. Yeah. Diaz, Gahir, you sent the backs. Vadiol at left back or O'Reilly. So you've got competition O'Reilly's Vostar, so is Vadiol. So the backline's not really a problem. Midfield's interesting, the Wadi 6, Enzo and Elliot Anderson. Yeah. And then Harlan 9, Doku Semenio. The problem with that is Foden's on the bench, Cherkis on the bench, Covichich's on the bench, Eight Norris on the bench, Rico Lewis is on the bench. Yeah. And Phil Foden does not want to spend another season on the bench. No, and we talk about Foden and Cherkis in a, in a bit. I think, and we again assume that Enzo Fernandez deal will happen. We think that it's the talks are really positive so far that we see this one happening from what we know. If it doesn't happen, obviously you can replace him with somebody else. You could slightly play differently. But let's say that Enzo is a city player. I think on paper, this team looks great. You've got different options. They have profiles, some versatility, some who complain on each other quite well. I think the Wadi, Enzo and Enzo Fernandez and Midfield could be a really good midfield. I mean, when you spend that kind of money, 350 million pounds on three midfielders, you hope that that midfield will be solid. Definitely. Definitely. An efficient and coherent and works well. But I think Foden and Cherkis have to be in a man's city team. With the players they've gotten, this is the night they've played, and the wingers that have gotten Semenio and Doku, how'd you get them in? Yeah. So we know that wingers are very important for my eyes. I remember I'd say to see that was the case in all the positional play. They seem to be now the prime players all around the world. All around the world. But so then you're right, does that take away some of the focus on your 10? So for me, Cherkis or Foden, you can't, you can play one of them wide if you want it. And he tried that at the weekend against Bournemouth. A little far along, yeah. Foden played on the right wing. Yeah. Never suited him. I know. And I thought the fix was, Cherkis put me in 10, ask him, him and Foden to get close together. So you think they can play together? I think they can play together. It's not ideal for Foden when he was on the right hand side, but you can play it because you know, you can get your right back if it's Nunez or Cousin off to try and bomb on on the outside. So you can get a little bit of which. They didn't really have it in the Bournemouth game because Foden was trying to stay there, but trying to drift all over the place in the fallback, just couldn't get high enough up the pitch on that right hand side. But I think if you ask Phil Foden to play right side with a little bit of sort of the mentality, if you're going to be inverted when we've got the ball, you can get Cherkis the number 10 and you're all close at the Harland. But that knocks some men yo in. Dock who has wide players at the team and just looks a little bit sort of lopsided. So I put them in and go, go on, go on play, but you can't ask Dock who to be a sort of inverted player. He's a winger. So men yo we've seen can play as a sort of number nine. Every nine again, he can play a winger. So it depends on how you see it. If you someone like me and I think it poses problems, then that's the way I look at it. If you're a man of the city fan and you look at the team and the subs, you go, that's really good. It's a problem. What's the problem? It's quite a thing. Apart from, you know, maybe the backup to Harland, like we said, but let's say he's fit and stay is fit. I think this is a really good squad. The problem I have is that Enzo Maresca, who by the way, has known since March, he would take over Guardiola. Yeah. City have known since March, he would take over Guardiola. Yeah. And I think a lot of the players knew he was coming and yet when I hear him after the ball with game, saying like, I don't know what my best he is. That's not what my starting line up is. I mean, you'd be sitting on the beach doing what we're doing. That's sketching out what your team's going to look like. I know. And how come we are like end of August? And I know some of those new players have been late to rivals, but especially for the rest. That's a worry. Exactly. There's a worry the way he rocked up dressing like Guardiola at the weekend in a suit. Yeah, a little blue t-shirt. That way. We didn't like that. We didn't. And even all that business we shake here at the end, like what, you know, Pram Guardiola would do with his players, some of the opposition players of Maris Caesno Guardiola. And Foden, when he got took off one up, he went straight down the tunnel. Yeah. So there's little problems that he needs to iron out. The biggest problem that I see is you need to find your formation, your philosophy, and put all the pieces in the right places. Yeah. If you don't want to play Foden on the right hand side, that's not what you see. Don't play him there. Yeah, I agree. You know, don't try to show horn players. Exactly. Don't put Cherk yet on the left hand side because you want to get him in the 11. Play them in the best positions. What's the good season for City for you? They have to compete for the title. I don't think they will, but they have to compete and show you like the close because then you can progress next year. If they finish second or third, done well in the Champions League and won a domestic trophy, Guardiola is always being quite heavy on the domestic trophies. He's showing those trophies, lots of respect. So I think in my opinion, if they run Arsenal pretty close and finished, I don't know, five points behind, let's say, won a domestic trophy and finished in the Champions League spots. First season for Maraska. Yeah. I don't think that's too bad. Yeah, I agree. No, I agree with you. I don't think they'll finish second though. I think they have. I've got chance. I've got chance for two seconds. I think they have too many issues. So that's what you think is a good season for them. I think so. What do you think the season will look like? Do you think they're my struggle at times? Do you think he will take a risk? I would take a long time to get this team clicking, to find the right formula. I think all of that. I think he will find or will take his time. Young players like Bawadi are going to take a little bit of time. Elliot Anderson is going to take time. Yeah. Because the community shield, again, talking about putting players in different positions, you played them sort of on the right hand side. Yeah, they did them well. All Elliot Anderson, the majority of things that he does in Nottenham Forest is having a million touches on the board. Yeah. So I play him centrally. So that never worked. How I see it, Pan and out, I think they'll, I think we'll finish third behind Chelsea. I think they are, I think they are stacked at the top end of the pitch and looking good. I do think they might win a domestic trophy. I do think a lot of people have been quite pessimistic think and they won't be at the top four. Well, our coefficient is pretty strong. So it'll be five. Yeah. I can't see. Can you finish that at all five? I agree with you. I think people, you're right. Bessimistic is a good one. I think a lot of people have written them off already. I think it's because and it's natural because, right, we've lost potentially the best managed that's ever lived in Gordial. I've lost him. Genius. And then you lose Roderie. Genius. And you lose Bernardo Silva. And then you lose guys like Nathan Acke and John Stone's great, great, great, great, great squad players. And then that's where I think our pessimism comes from because you can go in away from what Gordial has built for the last seven or eight years, nine years. So it's, it's natural to be pessimistic, but I think when you take a deep dive into it and you look at the personnel that have still got, still very impressive. Yeah, it is. I mean, they've got hollet. Yeah, it stays fit. He's going to bang them towards championship football. Sure. Yeah, he should. I just, I do wonder how difficult, maybe it's even mission impossible to come after Gordial. Oh, and the, the void I would have left. Oh, yeah. To feel the, no, even just the style of football intensity. I mean, you've probably been like me. You've probably been sort of binge watching or seeing it on social media. So yeah, starting to find the scenes. Yeah. Like he's, he's standing there, Gordial, like crying on his team talks. How much he loves his players and his personal life. That's like, that's very unusual for managers to go, but that's the way Pep is. He's very emotional. Yeah, yeah. So as a player, you're going to give you all for him. You see your manager cry and deliver in a team talk because he's going to be personal. You are going to run for him. Do you think one of the biggest risk for Maris guys to try to be too much like Pep? Yeah. And you said on the, on a jockey way, yeah, how he was dressed for that boom with that. Got to be your own man. But I think you have to be your own man. Yeah. I don't, I don't think you can, you can go in there and try and dress like Pep or do little mannerisms like getting players after a game in front of the cameras. And it's not, yeah, and it might have been genuine. It might have been, but it's very much a gordial of training, isn't it? I would, I would like the thing that Marisca can be his own man and should be his own man. Well, let's see the second game in the league is on Friday night. So if you listen to this before that, we might get a bit of an answer already on what Marisca is going to try to do for that second game of the season. Well, enough much to sit. What about some quickies done? Let's do it. Chelsea won the Derby against Fulham on Monday night. That was done where you were impressed by the blue front three of JP Morgan. I mean, other banking groups are available. If you want to invest all your millions, like Don Hutchinson, Joe Pedro Copa and Morgan Rogers, you're pretty good. Don't forget Estava as well. Yeah. I mean, I've got this team because I know European football finishing second because of the players that you've mentioned. I mean, Joe Pedro to me, I just think he's, and it's a bold statement. He's one of the best number 9s, I think, in World Football. When Barça were chasing all these sort of number 9s, I'm thinking like, he's the man you buy. If you've got like unlimited money, he's your man. He knits it all together. He's a bit fiery. Don't get me wrong, but sometimes you don't mind that. But Cole Palmer to me, I don't know if you agree. I agree. He looked unreal. He looked fit. He looked lean. Sharp. He was sharp. He was silky. He was confident. A bit of arrogance thrown at him as well. I hope it doesn't hinder the development of Estavao. No, you're right. I mean, anyone watching Chelsea do the day. Must have been impressionally. I thought you were very exciting. Yeah, they were great. Talk to you about Killian's Hattrick. Another one. Yeah. First one of this season on Wednesday night against Real Sociedad at the Bernabéu was well. Remember the first game, they won in the last in the last minute. Yeah. Not too convincingly either. I think this was much better for me. I'm Real Sociedad and our friend Matarazzo. We're maybe a little bit naive. They played some decent football at times, but how do they look? So Killian through the middle, do you mind they left? No, do you mind they on the bench? On the bench. So he came on and looked great. Issues on the left. I think this is going to be the idea of Embape, Bellingham behind Embape, venice on the left. Other Gula on the right. Gula on the right. With a bit of freedom to let that right hand side to Dumfries bombing forward basically, trying on the bench and I don't think Trump would play too much unless Dumfries gets injured. And then you double pivot. It was Bernardo and Valverde because Tremini is our green jury. You could have Bernardo and Tremini, Tremini, Valverde. Some team. And then you're back four. If this works and it seems I think, it seems that this is Moreno's idea going forward is that this could work together quite well. And to be fair, so even out of position, they did okay. I mean, LaLiga, the shares like Hollywood, the sharing. I mean, it's going to be a great season. It would be great. I think it would be really good. Bruno Finanche won the PFA Player of the Year on Tuesday night, Don, so the players, the Premier League players vote basically. Did you agree with those votes? 100%. And I like the team of the year. You're not too keen on maybe one or two players who are left with them, but first Bruno. Bruno, 100% deserved. I mean, breaking the assistant. More than rice more than. Yeah, it depends how you see it. I mean, you know, Declan, Rice and Gabrielle, I think are the two most important people for Arsenal when I want to if they're going to drive them to multiple titles. They are super, super important. I just think you can't knock what Bruno has been doing at Man United for a long time. He's carried that club on his back for a long time, on his own. And then last season, he's breaking all sorts of assists records. And the way he played, I think it's deserved. Couple of positions. I would have swapped. Yes. The team was Raya Ingold, Tim Baszeli by Gabrielle or Riley as you're back for. Yeah. Seminio, Bruno, Rice and Shakey, Lesanio, Betfield for and then Harlan Ingold, Tiago in front. So I would have swapped. I think he's the best in the division. I would have swapped Matti Cash for Timber at right back. I think Matti Cash is a very underrated fall back. I think maybe he's the, I don't mean to say this disrespectfully because there's not a great derth of top quality right backs in the Premier League. I think he's the best for me to try to swap that. And I would have swapped Morgan Rodgers for Cherokee. Okay. So Cherokee kind of really good. Yeah, bit like bits like. Yeah, like, like, like he said, like don't get me wrong. Like he's one of these players you'd pay to watch. Yeah, you put your TV on, you go and watch him live and you go and go and entertain me. And he's incredible. It's like a Harlem Globetrotter. He's amazing. Love him, love him, love him. I just think, if I'm splitting hairs, I think Morgan Rodgers was a little bit more consistent. I only had, but I mean, I'm splitting hairs, but definitely Bruno. Yeah, Bruno 100%. Bradley Balcola to Liverpool, to getting closer. Yeah, he's getting closer. How close does it want to be? I know. And how long does it want to be? It will happen. I think it will happen. Now we reported on the website on Tuesday night that the three parties were really positive and Tuesday was a quite key day, I think. You know, I meet yours. I like a percentage. Yes, you do. Give me a percentage. I think nice. He's on his way. He's on his way. Give me a number. Yeah, you know, I give you 99. transfers. I will give you 90%. But give me 99. Yeah, it won't be too far from that. By the time a lot of the listeners or people watching us get through the show, I think you'd be there. Probably we're talking 120 to 130 million pounds. The fees have gone not everywhere. So I like it. We don't care. Do you think it's a good signing for Liverpool? I think it's an amazing sign, and it's exactly what they've needed. I agree. And if you're being really positive, it might help Kirk as a left back, because Kirk has to just go, here you go, mate. Yeah, yeah. There's the ball. Florian verse wants to cut in there. And he's got two players, because he's going to attract attention. Florian verse might get a bit of space. He's got to be on the right hand side as well. It's got to be a good sign in. Yeah, super speech. It's expensive. I know, but he's what it is. Yeah, I think we're living a world now where you just say the fees have got to be paid. You can't say we're not sign a player, because we're not we're not going to pay another 5 million quid. Yeah, I agree. Absolutely agree. So I think by color on his way to Liverpool very likely, so if you're a Liverpool fan, you can be very, very tough. The simply qualifier has happened in midweek. Oh, what happened to Celtic? Oh, we're not here against Lins. It's just an absolute disaster. I mean, how can you be three in a look going into the game, scored and make it four? Yeah, anything absolutely cruising. Four, one, four, two, four, three, four, four, four, lose five four. Incredible. I mean, damage is there pride, but economically, that's going to be terrible for Celtic. 20 million pounds around that. It's just an awful look, because imagine the revenue when they when they draw on the champs. Yeah, that's without those games, even. Exactly. Yeah, and you imagine like the kudos are playing against the top teams in the Champions League. It's Celtic Park and away from home. I mean, it's it's it's it's it's it's actually embarrassing. Yeah, it actually really, really is. Jules, what do you need to know about the qualifiers then? Yes, there was a lot of really interesting things. We'll talk about Leon and Fenabache in a little bit, but we're Viking, who won the Norwegian League, who also qualifies. So we'll have two Norwegian teams with Bodo Glim to qualify through the qualifiers. And and Viking, we had Yahya Ture in his first job as a manager with Slovak and Bratislava also making it to the league phase of the Champions League, which is great. And we had Sabah FC from Azerbaijan, the first Azir team to qualify in this new former of the Champions League that never qualified before. By the way, Viking, the last time and the only time they went in, was back in 1992. So it's been a long time since they waited. They won their first title after 36 years last year. So the student Norwegian team, a team from Azerbaijan, Yahya Ture will be back, certainly on the bench. And I think this is good. This is what we also like this new former of the Champions League. You've got a team that you not gained 200%. Totally agree. Hearts, they're talking about Scottish team way in the Champions League qualifiers, which they lost. Then that meant they became, they went into the European league qualifiers one, which they also lost. So that meant they went down to the conference league qualifiers, and they almost lost that as well. Oh my god. It's what's going on with football. It's crazy. I mean, if you're if you're a fan, I mean, the heart's been ripped out of hearts. We're losing the best players and manager. There's still a good football inside. They're going to be wrong. I've watched a few of their games at the start of the season, but my god, Jules is nervy. Can you imagine? They must have thought we cursed here. We're going to lose that as well and not playing Europe at all. I mean, it's it's it's it's it would have been unfathomable reading. They deserve better than that to be fair. I think this is in the hand of 100%. 100%. But they went on penalty just. I mean, only just. Leon, I watched the game last night against Fenerbahce. Gwendoos, he was a bit naughty. Ah, he was naughty. So we let's talk about the game himself. Fenerbahce overall, he was disappointing from Leon who lost two one after one one drawing Turkey. And this this Fenerbahce team with loads of names. Yeah. Oh yeah. And Golo Kant is another one. I sensual didn't play, but Lukaku was on the bench. Muriki's up front. Nathan Haki at the back. Edas and Engol. So all of that, he'd be fun to watch them in the Champions League. Yeah. Let's get on to Mathieu Ganduzi, who obviously he's a Paris Bonhembre player. Right. We then also played for Marseille. So everything that Leon fans would hate. Yeah. They insulted him from the moment he and his family and his mom from the moment they he went on to the pitch. So at the end, after the win, he gave them the middle fingers, he gave them the provocation and all of that, he kicked off massively in the turn-all, big fight, everything. What used then? Because his explanation was like, listen, they insulted me through the whole 90 minutes. And I am allowed to retaliate basically. You're not really allowed to. You know, if you're going to do something, you've got to do something cute. You can't just in front of the cameras, you know, make it so blatant and you can't start a riot. Yeah. That's against, you know, you do have a response. You better than that, really. You better than that. No, don't get me wrong. His argument will be they took it too far by itself. My mom and I don't know the words that were said. It was obviously very hurtful to him and his family. And he's always been an emotional player. And so he's like, you know, he wears his heart and he's sleeve. It doesn't mind giving back, which is fine. But I do think you have that responsibility just to wind it in a little bit. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And I think you will get a ban. There's no doubt it will get one, maybe two games. I don't think more than that. Because for some of the gestures from, you know, starting that kind of broad at the end and things like that. So in the end, it will also hurt your team in a way. I'm not sure. But I can see where it was from. And to be fair to him, he faced it up after the game in the mix zone with the French media saying, this is what happened. This is how I felt. This is why I did. I've got no regrets. And that's that's good as well. Because he's just like that too. So good on. Don Roma destroyed Florentina. That was back on Monday night, very convincingly, by the way. Yeah. With a heartbreak for Daniel Malin. Oh, he has gone to Celia and just absolutely ripped it up in the last season, the start of this season. I mean, Paulo de Barlo was amazing. Was three assists for him? Yeah. I mean, when you paint the picture of like a really clever, brainy footballer. Yeah. He is it. That's it. No pace, De Barlo. Not physically strong in posing, not particularly tall. He got lovely balance, but I've been out of silver. Lovely balance. But the way you found Daniel Malin for the three assists, but in terms of Malin, he's, he's always been one of these players to you. I think you'll agree where he was always in between. Yeah. Yeah. What is he? Is he a number nine? Is he a wide player? Well, he's super quick playing with, playing in wide areas, but he doesn't get the goals because he's a bit in between. Since he's gone to Roma on the Gasparini, he's gone right, you are not, you are number nine. You are nothing else but a number nine, and he's been absolutely phenomenal. 17 goals in the 19 Serie A games he played since he moved to Roma in January. So that's a good every 90 minutes for the minutes he played, which nobody in Serie A history. But he, but he, but he, but he looks like a number nine. Yeah, I agree. It's incredible when you've got this player who's like an in between like wide player center forward. And then like Gasparini goes, no, we're going to work on you being a center forward. We're going to have people like Palo de Barla in and around you and service you a wide player midfield players. Can they push into for the title? Or do you, do you still expect into to be too strong? And then, do you know, to, I think it's all in Champions League, because then Champions League as well. Yeah, I think they will push. And I think if Komo signed a striker, they might push into as well. Yeah. Milan got a good win against Torino at the weekend. You've a, I'm not sure under Spaletti, but I think there'll be a group of teams that will push into, but into for the last three or four years, I've got the best squad. I've got, they've got a brilliant, brilliant squad. Talk with squads and players and brilliant players, Julian Alvarez. What's the latest? Well, the latest one that he didn't show up for training yesterday on Wednesday, which again, you might want to leave. And you've been in that position, probably, but there's, there's a line that you don't, you cannot cross. You don't not turn up for training. And you don't, all he walk into on a villa. He wants you to play. I know. So Alvarez is not showing up for training. He clearly wants that move. And only to Barcelona. Arsenal are there. If he opens the door, but he doesn't want to come back to England to the Premier League, he wants Barcelona. Barcelona is saying, listen, Alpha is still on the table. It's a hundred million euros. So a bit, it's not what Atlético wanted. 150. But if you Atlético, don't you just think like, this is going to be a problem. If you keep him against his will, the fans have already inserted him and the whole Alvarez family at the at the game against Villarera at the weekend, that became toxic. Maybe take the hundred million. See, do you know what, yours? I mean, obviously, they need more. If midfield players don't have a hundred million, you need more. But I had a great discussion, semi-argument with Steve Enicle the other day about this subject. And I said, it's time now for, I'd let it go to dread to put that big boy pants on, accept the scenario. It's not great. It's not a good look. And you don't want it to happen. But you can't just like keep a player in the reserves. Because if he says I'm not playing confidence levels go down, the value of the player goes down. I know. I know. Just try and get as much money as you can. Yeah. Liz, this forest, for the second time in four days, don't this time in the league cup, are we getting a bit worried for Leverglasner? No, I think he'll be all right. I think some of the things he's sort of been saying since that game is a little bit strange, saying I'm not a miracle worker. Well, just give you a 15 million pound Liam Delab. I know. Make it work. I know. You've got good players that give you whites. Yeah. I think you'll make it work. I think you will. I think that it's always difficult when you play a team. You live seeing it many a time when you play a team, you know, twice in the space, like 10 days or whatever it might be. It's always difficult. So I think long term, I think it'll be okay, short term. I mean, they've got Liverpool at the weekend, so you need to try and get a result if you can. I think you'll be okay. Jules, who is this Noah and Yiddike? Well, he's a young, very young Cardiff Santobike who made his debut for the first team in the league of rounds at home to Norwich. Don, I mean, this is not going to age as well. He was born in 2011. 15 years old and 98 days. I mean, he was on that game to the night. Nice, 100 days old. Made his debut. Breaking Harvey, Alias record, if you remember, back in 2018 with Foulam when he was 15 and 174 days and played in the league cup. He played for an hour, a bit less than an hour. He looked good to be fair. He made a couple of mistakes, which we would expect as a 15-year-old plane against the course. And people could be his dad. Is he tall, physical? Yeah, tall, yeah. I think he would want to come back exactly at that age. But clearly, in Cardiff, they have a lot of faith in him, and I think this is wonderful to go back to school the next day. I mean, different position, it could be like Bellingham. Yeah, because I retired in a few years time. Good on him. Carlos Balibá is officially a Manchester United player, Don, for £65m plus some addons. Do you think it's a good sign? I do like this sign. Me too. I do like this sign. I think if he gets away from, when I watched him in the biggest criticism I had, which is strangely as a compliment, the game sometimes was too easy for him. Then he tried a little flick on a little trick. It brightened and I was like, that's not what you do. Yeah. You do what you do. You get around a pitch, you've got a lovely left foot, you're quite aggressive, you've got great legs to get box-to-box, you can cover, you can screen, you're an intelligent player. I think Michael Karakal do that to him. I agree. I think you'll say, listen, get the ball up the Bruno, get it to the wide players, get it to the frontman as quick as possible, you do all the dirty work. Then we've got loads of possession, we know technically you're very good. So I think it's a sign in, I think it's going to work. Fantastic for him. This is a funny thing to yours in the Champions League, regarding Liverpool and Real Madrid. Yes, the draw is later today. If you're listening to us, I can't wait on Thursday, late afternoon, so you might listen to this before or after. It depends. But yeah, the funny thing is, Real Madrid and Liverpool have faced each other for the last two seasons, two Liverpool Real Madrid games. And apparently, the rules at UFR say is that if three years in a row, the same game is drawn, you'd have to reverse the home and away fixture from the third one. Why? Yeah. If the draw is the draw, if Liverpool had picked first and then run Madrid, this game plays being played at Liverpool. Why suddenly it would be played at the Bernabéu? There's just had a little word there, I said, are you sure you want us to go to one field again? Again, three years in a row? That's no good. Okay, yeah, let's swap there. Yeah, can we put a little rule kind of a point? I almost just won this to happen in the time. You know, just it's just for that. Correct. Just for that. According to reports, AC Milan and Gatasaray Don have agreed a 45 million euro deal for Rafael Léo. I mean, we both are full of this career. We both love him as much as we hate him, hate him and get mad at him at times. He hasn't said yes just yet. Yeah. But this one is going to happen very likely. Is that is that step down? What do you make of it? Well, as you said, when you watch Rafael for a long period of time, which mean you've done, there's a lot of love and there's a lot of hate and hate a strong word, but you know what I mean? For straight ins about that. Exactly. Because all the talent in the world he's been gifted with. He's physically powerful. He's super, super quick. He's got lovely feet, right foot left foot. He goes past players, scores goals, gets an assist, but will not do any work going backwards whatsoever. He will not do it. He refuses to do it. He didn't under Antonio Conte. They had Teo and Anders and they had Tanali trying to block that left hand side just to try and cover for him. And Legri last year thought, I know what I'll do of him. I'll play him as a false nine, McCrushian Pulisic. Didn't work. It was the experiment. Yeah. Every night again, he's showing his face with genius. So it's on the player now and I don't mind saying, and it's not hate. It's a strong word. It's a little bit of fun because the hate comes from. He's so good. You want him to do well. And you go in like, come on, like, can you just, can you just do it? Can you run around? Enjoy what you're doing. Play football. No one's got to teach you any skills whatsoever because you've got it all. That's where the frustration comes from. So the move, if he goes to Gala, you would imagine should work out for him. But he's going to have to make sure because they won't like it. They don't see a player who'll be on a lot of money. And he doesn't track back and doesn't work on it and gives the ball away and just smiles and laughs it off. That's that's one of the biggest frustrations. Well, another frustration, Christopher and Conco. Can you never stay fit? I know. And he on the move, what's happening? Yeah, he's back at Lipsig now. I'm alone with an obligation to buy, I think. So three million plus a 28. He's 28 years old now. He's signing away because he was so good at Lipsig. Remember, he was the best player. Every time they played Champions League football, he was the best player. It was incredible. And then he goes to Chelsea, things don't work out. And after that, he's just downhill, really. So including last season. And Milan, so let's hope he can relaunch his career back at Lipsig in Germany. Spurs confirm the overall of Savio. We talked about that a little bit before. And he lit up their game against on Wednesday in the league cup. Do you like this signing? And do you think he could get to the next level with you? Yeah, I'm torn. If I'm very honest, I'm torn. He's got ability. Yeah. And I like the fact that the Derby's not waiting for no man. He's not waiting for Kulosewski. He's not waiting for Kudus. He's saying, by me players now, you know, these guys are injured. Kudus might be on his way back. I don't know, wait. And he players now. And he played against Charnton. I mean, I don't think he got credited with the second goal. No, it was a distraction. Yeah, but it could have been two. Yeah. He looked like he was enjoying himself. He's another player. I think that's a little bit like Relish Underman City when Guardiola tried to micro manage every inch of Savinio. We've got to start getting used to calling him Savio, but micro manage all of these play on the pitch. I think what he needs to do is forget all that. Go back to being a street footballer. Enjoy yourself. Go play for Spurs. Go and turn it on. Go and entertain because another player that's got all the ability in the world. So I think in the end, I think you'll be a success. But I think you've got to go back to basics a little bit more by enjoying himself and just committing defenders and taking them on. Yeah, I agree with you. Igor Palacio could be on his way to Sondland Jules. Good signing. Yeah, I think so. So he's very capable. Marseilles paid 35 million euros from Feinort last summer for him. And he had some really good moments like pure Brazilian winger in the Champions League. He's called two two goals against Ajax. For example, there's a lot of ability there. He's strong as well. Everything and this game's way disappears completely. Right. So he needs to find out a consistency. He's quite young. Yeah. I think he's 24 years old or 23 years old. He needs to be more consistent to be a success in the Premier League. Sondland needs a wide player. They need wingers. They need that. They need that kind of creativity. They've been linked with Jack Relish as well. Yeah. As a loan, which I think again could could work. So it might be a bit expensive for Pachau at probably 40 million pound, 45. But I think they need somebody like that. And if Lebris can get him that consistency. Yeah. I think it could be great. Amazing. And just like that. And just like that. Just like that. Some TV was made. And that's it. We're two nil down in the Saudi pro league. I have time against Alitifak and Big Ange, Bostecoglu took off Cristiano Ronaldo off at the break. What happened next time? Guess who was commentating on that game, Jules? No way. Yeah. I was on it. I was on it right. So the context is is bento the goalkeeper for Al Nasser. He got sent off on 12 minutes. It's 45 degrees. Yeah. He was Ronaldo's 41 playing up front on his own now. Took Angelo off his talent at Brazilian midfield player. So Ronaldo for 35 minutes of the game is chasing shadows. And he can't get the ball. And it's boiling out. And he's 41. And then they went to nil down. The context is a half time when Ronaldo didn't appear for the second half. I was saying on commentary that's one of two things. It's either an injury to Ronaldo or Ange Bostecoglu's thing in we are away from home without a 10 men were to nil down with a 41 year old striker. The game's gone. We are not going to win this game. It's pointless asking him to run around in this heat. Let's get some young players on. They took Ronaldo off in the end. It's a big story. But they won the game three two. They won it three two to put a kid called Alhamadana on a front who's a young player. He ran it socks off. Marne scored two goals. Shafelex had two assists. So they won the game three two against Alettifag. Absolutely collapsed by the way. You know, winning 2 nil 11 v 10. But the context is and the story is now everyone's going and just fell out of Ronaldo. That's the story. But when you think of it really. It makes sense. He protected a 41 year old in 45 degrees. I think he was really good in this post-match press conference. Listen. I mean, don't get me wrong. Ronaldo weren't happy. Yeah. He weren't happy. He went down the tunnel at half time. Yeah, he was not happy. But it makes sense. You know, he can just move on to another day. Exactly. You keep Ronaldo fit. You don't run him into the ground. You win the game three two because King's he come and got dragged off as well. Yeah. The game was gone. It was done. I was finished. I agree. So it was strange. Talk me about the press conference with Javi and what happened in the sort of presentation. Yeah, because he was finally presented as the new Netherlands head coach, which I think is a it's a very exciting choice from them. It should be really fun to watch. And Nigel De Jong, who's the kind of like national team manager, if you want, is pretty like that. Was sat with Chaville at the press conference. I didn't notice. I'd seen the clip, right? Didn't know they were sat next to each other. There was that next to each other. And to be fair to De Jong, he was quite honest in the sense that he said, well, our first choice was Guardiola, not you, Chaville. The second choice was still not you, Chaville. It was honest lot. And then once those two said no, then we thought Chaville was the right guy for the job. Thank you so much for coming, which in a way, I think Chaville probably knew he was not and there's loads of managers who are probably not. Of course. Like look at company. Yeah. Of course. I don't think he might have been there. But it was just funny. The way he happened. We were strange from the job, not exactly. When we Chaville, the young, the Dutch, good luck in this kind of new cycle, again, new era for the national team. But yeah, that was, that was funny. Don, thank you so much for today, man. Thank you. Thank you again. Great show. We've done Hutchinson, Gab, we'll be back on Monday. There's a lot of things we will have to review from the weekend. Obviously, but until now, as Gab always says, love yourself, love the game, love your neighbor or something like that.
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